User talk:WeepingElf

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oh my god hahahaha Flafi is such a hilarious language. it's like pokémon, which can only say their own name, truncations of it, repetitions of it but nothing else. hahahaha you've made my day oh gosh this is too funny. -grin --Denihilonihil 08:13, 22 February 2006 (PST)


Joerg, I've updated more of the Silindion page, if you'd like to take a look. User:Erelion12


You do know, I suppose, that 'Canarese' is an older English term for the Dravidian language Kannaḍa. Actually wp:Canarese redirects to wp:Kannada language! Why not 'Canarian' to resolve the ambiguity? wp:Canarian redirects to a page about the modern people of the Canary Islands. The OTL aborigines and their language are called Guanche. BPJ 17:21, 9 November 2009 (UTC)

The language template

Hi, I was wondering if you could help me with the language summary template? I need one without the fields genealogy, word order, morphological type and morphosyntactic alignment, because I'm using it on an orthography page. But simply deleting those fields won't get rid of them. What's the actual wiki-code for this table?


You can delete the relevant rows just like you can delete any other source code in your page. Where is the problem?

They don't disappear from the table when viewing the page normally, even if I delete those rows from the code.
Then I'm wondering if you could help me with another related problem. ;) I'm writing this article, and have that same template in it. Although, it seems to have been updated since when I last wrote to you, because it looks completely different now. In the genealogy section, I want to specify "Revived Middle Cornish" as a dialect, but I don't understand how to do that, or what the end result is supposed to look like exactly. This template's help page isn't helpful now that the code looks different. :/
Qwynegold 12:15, 10 November 2012 (PST)

I cannot help you because the template is no longer the way I made it. I did not write the code you have trouble with. Somebody else has added some magic to it which is beyond my understanding. WeepingElf 11:45, 12 November 2012 (PST)

Oh, I see. Oh well, thanks anyway. Qwynegold 04:48, 14 November 2012 (PST)


Hey there! I'm Wattmann (duh), from the forums! Just wanted to say hello :) - The Swamp Watcher 15:29, 19 September 2012 (PDT)


I realize this may be a few years overdue, but congrats on your Admin status here! masako


Hello there! I wasn't sure if Muke was still active or not, so I looked at the Active User list to find an Admin who is still actively using the Wiki; and I found you! Anyway, I have a few things and was wondering if you could help me out with them:

  • Do you know if folks actively purge stuff out of the For deletion category? If not, is there a better way to ask Admins to delete things for me?
    • Relatedly, as I tend to mess with naming conventions and what not, I was wondering if it would be possible for someone to give me the ability to rename pages and suppress the automatic creation of a re-direct page. I know this isn't generally done for ordinary users, but I can assure you that I have no interest in purposefully breaking links willy-nilly and actually would just like to be able to move my stuff around when I need to without creating a swath of dead pages in my wake that may never get dumped themselves. I am well aware of checking the "What links here?" link to make sure that when I move things it makes as few dead links as possible. Just a thought that might make less work for you guys in the long run and minimize the number of dead pages I end up making.
  • And, finally, I have been messing around a lot with a template that creates a table for use within another table. Unfortunately, it has a bad habit of being obnoxious and won't let me center the resulting tables inside the cells of the other table I am using it in. Is there a better way to do this (mayhap using div-boxes or spans, or some other trickery I just don't know)? If not, can you make any suggestions for the syntax of the page/templates in question. They are: Vingdagese#Characters, Template:VDT+ and the other version of the template which basically just makes placing Files easier Template:VDT.

Also, I hope you don't mind, but I added some headings to some of the earlier questions that folks posted here as they appeared above the auto-generated TOC. I also shifted it to the right side of the page so that it intrudes less in the flow of text. I apologize if that was a bit too presumptuous of me. I just know that Talk pages can get pretty out of hand eventually.

Thanks in advance for any assistance you are able to give me! — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont  01:57, 18 September 2017 (PDT)

Well, thanks for the answer, such as it was. Do you have a suggestion as to who might be better able to answer my questions? — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont  20:53, 19 September 2017 (PDT)
Thanks just the same for the responses! — Pill-37.png Talk · Cont  01:23, 25 September 2017 (PDT)

League of Lost Languages

Hello! Thank you very much for accepting me in the community! I've been looking at projects here for many times, I find interesting the topic of Ibero-Hesperic, like Balla and Corunese, Have you thought about these languages?--Spinovenator (talk) 16:12, 15 December 2017 (PST)

I haven't done much work on them yet, and they are rather low priority; I am currently focussing on Proto-Hesperic and Old Albic. --WeepingElf (talk) 12:08, 17 December 2017 (PST)

OK, Thank you! Would be there any way to participate in League of Lost Languages? I have some ideas. --Spinovenator (talk) 06:10, 18 December 2017 (PST)

You can join, by subscribing to the [email protected] mailing list; but I should warn you that that list is virtually dead, and the League of Lost Languages is essentially a thing of the past. Nobody except me works on that thing any more, it seems. --WeepingElf (talk) 08:23, 18 December 2017 (PST)

I have set up a little brainstorming page for our purposes. --WeepingElf (talk) 11:40, 19 December 2017 (PST)

Oh it's perfect! I want to actively participate in these languages, in a few months I'll have some more time, because now I'm busy with the studies... I'm anxious to create a "Proto-Ibero-Hesperic"! --Spinovenator (talk) 15:53, 11 January 2018 (PST)

I have seen your edits on the brainstorming page. You have suggested wholesale borrowings of Basque inflectional suffixes into Ibero-Hesperic. This, however, is not the way such things work. I rather thought of building Basque-like syntactic structures from morphemes inherited from Proto-Hesperic. --WeepingElf (talk) 11:58, 12 January 2018 (PST)

Sorry, It was a copy of the Basque characteristics that I got out of wikipedia and I put it without wanting to, I do not want the Proto-Ibero-Hesperic to be like the Basque, only that it has similar characteristics. It has been a mistake. --Spinovenator (talk) 12:45, 12 January 2018 (PST)

Fine. I think we are coming to terms. --WeepingElf (talk) 06:08, 13 January 2018 (PST)

I need a word in Proto-Hesperic to name "Ibero-Hesperic", as a "person", "language" or other. I had thought about naming him with the *Usk- stem, adopted from the Proto-Basque language, but it would not be logical for native Basques to call foreigners by their name, or for Proto-Ibero-Hesperic to adopt the name of the natives without being culturally absorbed. I have seen your work with Tommian Family, in case you need it for the kartvelian etymology, there is a good page that I use [1] --Spinovenator (talk) 15:30, 14 January 2018 (PST)

Fine; I have to think about your suggestions. You should check the directions of the arrows, though; it seems to me as if some were backwards. It is old > new, or new < old. However, I feel that at the present stage, this project is premature (though we can already talk about it, of course), as I still have a lot to work on Proto-Hesperic and West Hesperic (as an intermediate protolanguage). (Also, Tommian is in a very early stage, and the sound changes not yet laid down.) --WeepingElf (talk) 09:13, 15 January 2018 (PST)