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"Sø nok IN ÏII don!"
"Sø nok IN ÏII don!"


(You should bring this to me at once!)
(You should bring it to me at once!)


And
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(he has to come to me!)
(he has to come to me!)
Here, it seems pretty clear - one sentence needs "must/has to" and one needs "should/is supposed to". But again, this is not always the case.
Compare the following:
"Nek syn ËN nekar!"
(They must not kill me!)
And
"Nek sibotin ËN nekar!"
(They must not kill me!)
Both sentences are grammatically correct and carry the same meaning, yet it is not clear which one should be used in Sevvufery, even though in English it is obvious - "they're not supposed to kill me" carries a completely different meaning to "they have to not kill me". In fact, the Sevvuferyn translation would probably even add the word "divvog" (suitable, as in "they are not suitable to kill me" or "it is improper for them to kill me") to make the distinction clearer.

Revision as of 06:01, 16 April 2025

Hyla vs yyizyn

Both of these words mean "a lot of/many" in theory, but in practice they are not used interchangeably. For starters, one word, "hyla" is usually followed by the genitive of the noun it is describing, which is not the same for "yyizyn", which takes the nominative.

From observations of its use, it is evident that "hyla" is used for continuous groups of data and uncountable items (e.g weight of an object, emotions) whereas "yyizyn" is used for discrete groups of data and countable items (e.g number of leaders in an army, number of elements in the periodic table)

Compare the following:

"Søn hyla meltamim ë telig dõkijý"

(There is a lot of worry among my friends)

And

"Søn yyizyn dõkijý"

(There are many friends)

Saying, for example, "søn hyla dõkijý" just does not sound right, and equally so if one were to say "søn yyizyn meltam ë telig dõkijý". This may stem from the grammatical differences between the words - after all, having much of something may be linked to something like sand, which one can pick up from a seemingly smooth, continuous pile, whereas simply having "many" may be linked to being able to point out each one of the "many". But this is mere speculation and Sevvuferyn scholars are still in disagreement as to where this semantic difference came from.


"Should" vs "Must" -"søn" + infinitive or "sibon" + infinitive?

Just as in English, there is a slight distinction between saying that something should/is supposed to be done and saying that it must be. However, the line dividing the two is sometimes differently shaped than in English.

Compare the following:

"Sø nok IN ÏII don!"

(You should bring it to me at once!)

And

"Sibont ÏII ovunk!"

(he has to come to me!)

Here, it seems pretty clear - one sentence needs "must/has to" and one needs "should/is supposed to". But again, this is not always the case.

Compare the following:

"Nek syn ËN nekar!"

(They must not kill me!)

And

"Nek sibotin ËN nekar!"

(They must not kill me!)

Both sentences are grammatically correct and carry the same meaning, yet it is not clear which one should be used in Sevvufery, even though in English it is obvious - "they're not supposed to kill me" carries a completely different meaning to "they have to not kill me". In fact, the Sevvuferyn translation would probably even add the word "divvog" (suitable, as in "they are not suitable to kill me" or "it is improper for them to kill me") to make the distinction clearer.