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== Phonology == | == Phonology == | ||
{| class="bluetable" style="text-align:center; float:left" | {| class="bluetable" style="text-align:center; float:left" | ||
! !! | ! !! Labial !! Labiolingual !! Alveolar !! Palatal !! Velar !! Glottal | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Nasal | ! Nasal | ||
| | | /m/ '''m''' || /n̼/ '''n''' || /n/ '''n''' || /ŋ/ '''ŋ''' || | ||
|- | |||
! Click | |||
| (/ᵐʘ/ '''mx''') || || (/ŋǃ/ '''nc''') || || | |||
|- | |- | ||
! Voiced Stop | ! Voiced Stop | ||
| b || || d || g || | | '''b''' || || '''d''' || '''g''' || | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Eject. Stop | ! Eject. Stop | ||
| pʼ || || t’ || k’ || ʔ | | /pʼ/ '''pq''' || || /t’/ '''tq''' || /k’/ '''kq''' || /ʔ/ ''' ' ''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Unvoiced Stop | ! Unvoiced Stop | ||
| p || || t || k~x || | | '''p''' || || '''t''' || /k~x/ '''k''' || | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Plain Fricative | ! Plain Fricative | ||
| ɸ~β || θ̼~ð̼ || s~z | | /ɸ~β/ '''f''' || /θ̼~ð̼/ '''þ''' || /s~z/ '''s''' || (/ʒ/ '''ž''') || || | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Eject. Fricative | ! Eject. Fricative | ||
| | | /fʼ/ '''fq''' || /θ̼ʼ/ '''þq''' || /s’~ts’/ '''sq''' || || | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Approx./Trill | ! Approx./Trill | ||
| w || || r || j || | | '''w''' || || '''r''' || '''j''' || /h~ɦ/ '''h''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Laterals | ! Laterals | ||
| || | | || /l̼/ '''l''' || /ɬ/ '''ł''' || || | ||
|} | |} | ||
{| class="bluetable" style="float:right; text-align:center;" | {| class="bluetable" style="float:right; text-align:center;" | ||
! !! Front !! Back | ! !! Front !! Back !! Underspecified | ||
|- | |- | ||
! High | ! High | ||
| i || u | | '''i''' || '''u''' || I | ||
|- | |- | ||
! High-Mid | ! High-Mid | ||
| e || o | | '''e''' || '''o''' || O | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Low-Mid | ! Low-Mid | ||
| ɛ || ɔ | | /ɛ/ '''ë''' || /ɔ/ '''ö''' || Ö | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Low | ! Low | ||
| colspan="2" | ä | | colspan="2" | /ä/ '''a''' | ||
|} | |} | ||
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* hiatus allowed, diphthongs not | * hiatus allowed, diphthongs not | ||
* any coda, except glides | * any coda, except glides | ||
=== Sentences === | |||
# The storm scared people | |||
#* k’ɛthu-Mp’a ʔusɛk närgo-f’ | |||
#* kqëthumxa ’usëk närgofq | |||
#* As for the storm, (there is) fear in people. | |||
Revision as of 18:44, 23 March 2025
Goals
- Endgoal - A truly verbless language I can use
- Vague phrases
- Glacial pace
- Navajo-of-nouns
- lazy but clever
- carved in stone
- complicated rituals
- Naturalism - 6/10
- I want some naturalistic elements
- Different setting (parallel Earth)
- Different nature (immortal humans)
- Irregularities but not many
- Idioms within reason
- Complexity - insane. Navajo but with only nouns
- Derivation - clear. Agglutinative, basically
- Features
- Phonology
- Vowel harmony
- A couple of clicks, and ejectives (un-earth-like)
- CV, and CVC
- Grammar
- No verbs at all
- assumed copular between topic and subject
- 6 nouns classes (genders), like animacy
- Many cases (12?)
- Case-stacking
- word glue, like German
- mostly agglutinative, touch of fusional
- Culture
- things happen, not because someone does them, but because the world unfolds in prescribed patterns
- discourse is formulaic, ceremonial, or sacred: more on set relational expressions and fixed semantic roles, rather than on active description of novel events
- agency is less linguistically salient, so predicates assigning blame, initiative, or creativity are avoided
- Tidally Locked Planet
- The sun never moves in the sky.
- The world is divided into zones of permanent day, eternal night, and a narrow habitable twilight ring.
- People live in a stable band where temperature and light are forever the same.
- Mountain life
- Isolated communities → heavy internal consistency, less external pressure to simplify
- Thin air → favoring sharp, closed articulation: ejectives, glottalization, voiceless stops
- Cultural inwardness → deep philosophies of stasis and permanence
- Time is measured in generations, epochs, weathering of stone, growth cycles of ultra-slow plants
- Phonology
Go
| Case | Function | Gloss | Ending |
|---|---|---|---|
| Topical | Frames the referent of the utterance | “As for…” | -Mp'a |
| Identity | Category, essence, nominal predicate | “is a…” / “equals…” | - |
| Possessive | ownership, authorship, kinship, part-whole | “X’s Y” | -rkI |
| Genitive | association, content, theme, objective, attribution | “Y of X” | -ł(Ɛ) |
| Case | Function | Typical gloss | Ending |
|---|---|---|---|
| Locative | Place, state, context of being, time-within | “in,” “at,” “on”, "during" | -f' |
| Dative | Target, direction | “to,” “for,” “until", "as far as" | -Mk'O |
| Ablative | Source, cause, origin | “from,” “because of,” “due to” | -bdI |
| Benefactive | Advantage, interest, concern | “for the benefit of…”, "at the behest of" | -aI |
| Abessive | Absence, privation, “lacking” | “without,” “lacking,” “free from”, "exclude" | -st'Ɛ |
| Case | Function | Typical gloss | Ending |
|---|---|---|---|
| Instrumental | Means, medium, material | “by (means of)”, “through,” “with”, "using" | -fla |
| Adverbial | Role/state modifier, part of speech shift | “as (a) X,” “in a X way”, "like" | -Oad |
| Translative | Change of state, transform/manifestation | “becoming,” “into,” “turning into” | -k'(I) |
| Not "Container" (mass: ?, ??) | "Container" (count: ?, ??) | |
|---|---|---|
| Idea + Matter | Animals (also temperaments) | Persons / Gods |
| Matter only | (Diffuse) Substances: air, fire | Tools , "rocks" |
| Idea only | Actions | Abstracts, Categories, Sets |
Number: Containers are unmarked for number, as in Chinese/Japanese/Korean. Non-containers default to a collective/mass-noun number, but can take a partitive (which can mean as few as one).
Polypersonal pronouns:
Phonology
| Labial | Labiolingual | Alveolar | Palatal | Velar | Glottal | |
|---|---|---|---|---|---|---|
| Nasal | /m/ m | /n̼/ n | /n/ n | /ŋ/ ŋ | ||
| Click | (/ᵐʘ/ mx) | (/ŋǃ/ nc) | ||||
| Voiced Stop | b | d | g | |||
| Eject. Stop | /pʼ/ pq | /t’/ tq | /k’/ kq | /ʔ/ ' | ||
| Unvoiced Stop | p | t | /k~x/ k | |||
| Plain Fricative | /ɸ~β/ f | /θ̼~ð̼/ þ | /s~z/ s | (/ʒ/ ž) | ||
| Eject. Fricative | /fʼ/ fq | /θ̼ʼ/ þq | /s’~ts’/ sq | |||
| Approx./Trill | w | r | j | /h~ɦ/ h | ||
| Laterals | /l̼/ l | /ɬ/ ł |
| Front | Back | Underspecified | |
|---|---|---|---|
| High | i | u | I |
| High-Mid | e | o | O |
| Low-Mid | /ɛ/ ë | /ɔ/ ö | Ö |
| Low | /ä/ a | ||
Allophony:
- nasal + labial ejective -> [m͡ʘ]
- nasal + non-labial ejective -> [ŋ͡ǃ]
Phonotactics are (C)(G)V(C2):
- any consonant or none can a syllable
- Glides (/j/ or /w/) after anything
- hiatus allowed, diphthongs not
- any coda, except glides
Sentences
- The storm scared people
- k’ɛthu-Mp’a ʔusɛk närgo-f’
- kqëthumxa ’usëk närgofq
- As for the storm, (there is) fear in people.