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'''dono''' = to walk, the act of walking | '''dono''' = to walk, the act of walking | ||
JARGON ... In English the form of a verb which we use when we are talking about that verb, is called the "infinitive". The English infinitive seems to function pretty much like a noun, though it retains some verb-like characteristics. In Limbawa the form used (the recitation form) when we talk about a verb, is called '''gamba''' (meaning source or origin). It is fully a noun. | JARGON ... In English the form of a verb which we use when we are talking about that verb, is called the "infinitive". The English infinitive seems to function pretty much like a noun, though it retains some verb-like characteristics. In Limbawa the form used (the recitation form) when we talk about a verb, is called '''gamba''' (meaning source or origin). It is fully a noun. For example '''kalme''' would be translated as "demolition" rather than "to demolish". | ||
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'''donarti''' = I had walked | '''donarti''' = I had walked | ||
JARGON ... Above we can see the four past tense forms of '''dono'''. | JARGON ... Above we can see the four past tense forms of '''dono'''. | ||
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'''donarti''' is what is called the "perfect" aspect. Logically it doesn't differ that much from the plain past tense. But it emphasises a state rather than describes an action. For example "I had walked 5 miles ..." would be used when he were telling a story and you wanted to reveal why you were feeling tired. This is in contrast to a straight narrative when you would simple say "I walked 5 miles ...". | '''donarti''' is what is called the "perfect" aspect. Logically it doesn't differ that much from the plain past tense. But it emphasises a state rather than describes an action. For example "I had walked 5 miles ..." would be used when he were telling a story and you wanted to reveal why you were feeling tired. This is in contrast to a straight narrative when you would simple say "I walked 5 miles ...". | ||
'''donaru''' = I will walk | |||
'''donarlu''' = I will be walking | |||
'''donarwu''' = I will walk | |||
'''donartu''' = I will have walked | |||
Above we can see the four future tense forms of '''dono'''. | |||
Note ... The form '''donaru''' is used if the act of walking is just a one off ... for example in answer to the question "how are you going to the supermarket". But suppose that you had just moved house and the question "how will you get to the supermarket" is envisioning many instances of "walking" ... in that case the answer should use the form '''donarwu'''. | |||
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'''donara''' = I have walked | '''donara''' = I have walked | ||
''' | JARGON ... Above we can see the three present tense forms of '''dono'''. Because the present, represents only a time instant, instead of long time intervals, the present aspects have a different pattern compared to the past and the future aspects. | ||
''' | You would expect the form '''donarta''', but this has been "eroded" down to '''donara''' thru' much use. | ||
''' | '''donarla''' can only be used if walking is actually happening at the time of speaking. | ||
The form '''donarwa''' is not actually restricted to the present (well it would not be worth mentioning if it was restricted in this way). Instead the meaning of this form has been expanded to encompass the past and the future as well as the present. That is it is used if you habitually walk in the past, the present and there is no reason to suppose that you will not do so in the future. Also note that this form doesn't imply that you are actually walking at the time of speaking. | |||
'''donar''' | As with '''donarwa''' the form '''donar''' (I walk) is not restricted to the past, present or future. | ||
Note that in translating "I walk" from English you have a choice of '''donarwa''' or '''donar'''. Generally the "-RWA" form should be used if your possible walking time is interspersed with periods of non-walking. '''donarwa''' could be translated as "sometimes I walk, and sometimes I choose not to walk" or even "I usually walk". | Note that in translating "I walk" from English you have a choice of '''donarwa''' or '''donar'''. Generally the "-RWA" form should be used if your possible walking time is interspersed with periods of non-walking. '''donarwa''' could be translated as "sometimes I walk, and sometimes I choose not to walk" or even "I usually walk". | ||
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Tense and Aspect
dono = to walk, the act of walking
JARGON ... In English the form of a verb which we use when we are talking about that verb, is called the "infinitive". The English infinitive seems to function pretty much like a noun, though it retains some verb-like characteristics. In Limbawa the form used (the recitation form) when we talk about a verb, is called gamba (meaning source or origin). It is fully a noun. For example kalme would be translated as "demolition" rather than "to demolish".
donari = I walked
donarli = I was walking
donarwi = I used to walk
donarti = I had walked
JARGON ... Above we can see the four past tense forms of dono.
donari is the plain past tense. This is most often used when somebody is telling a story (or in a narrative as they say). For example "Yesterday I got up, ate my breakfast and went to school". All three verbs in this narrative are in the simple past tense.
donarli has stretched the act of walking out time wise. The most common use for this is when you want to fit another action, inside the act of walking. For example "I was walking to school when it started to rain". Occasionally this form is used when you simply want to emphasis that the action took a long time (well in Limbawa anyway, not so much in English). For example "This morning I was walking to school 5 miles (because the bridge over the river was washed away)".
donarwi is what is called the habitual aspect. donarwi shows that you had many instances of walking in the past. For example "When I was a young girl, I used to walk 5 miles to school (because that bridge was only built in 1997)"
donarti is what is called the "perfect" aspect. Logically it doesn't differ that much from the plain past tense. But it emphasises a state rather than describes an action. For example "I had walked 5 miles ..." would be used when he were telling a story and you wanted to reveal why you were feeling tired. This is in contrast to a straight narrative when you would simple say "I walked 5 miles ...".
donaru = I will walk
donarlu = I will be walking
donarwu = I will walk
donartu = I will have walked
Above we can see the four future tense forms of dono.
Note ... The form donaru is used if the act of walking is just a one off ... for example in answer to the question "how are you going to the supermarket". But suppose that you had just moved house and the question "how will you get to the supermarket" is envisioning many instances of "walking" ... in that case the answer should use the form donarwu.
donarla = I am walking
donarwa = I walk
donara = I have walked
JARGON ... Above we can see the three present tense forms of dono. Because the present, represents only a time instant, instead of long time intervals, the present aspects have a different pattern compared to the past and the future aspects.
You would expect the form donarta, but this has been "eroded" down to donara thru' much use.
donarla can only be used if walking is actually happening at the time of speaking.
The form donarwa is not actually restricted to the present (well it would not be worth mentioning if it was restricted in this way). Instead the meaning of this form has been expanded to encompass the past and the future as well as the present. That is it is used if you habitually walk in the past, the present and there is no reason to suppose that you will not do so in the future. Also note that this form doesn't imply that you are actually walking at the time of speaking.
As with donarwa the form donar (I walk) is not restricted to the past, present or future.
Note that in translating "I walk" from English you have a choice of donarwa or donar. Generally the "-RWA" form should be used if your possible walking time is interspersed with periods of non-walking. donarwa could be translated as "sometimes I walk, and sometimes I choose not to walk" or even "I usually walk".
Note ... if you say "I walk to church every Sunday" you have a choice of...
1) using donarwa and dropping the Limbawa equivalent to "every".
2) using donar and using the Limbawa equivalent to "every".
1) implies that you ONLY go on Sunday
2) leaves open the possibility that you go to church on other days of the week also.
The "-R" form is used to present general truths. For example, in says "birds fly", you would use the "-R" form.
So we have 12 different forms for tense and aspect.
LINGUISTIC JARGON ... tense basically means time and in my system we have past tense "I", present "A" and future "U" tenses.
... aspect in more difficult to explain ... but you can see from the examples, how the different aspects change how the verb relates to the rest of the text/sentence. In Limbawa, three aspects are included in the verb word. These are continuous "L" , habitual "W" and perfect "T".
Person and Number
donari = I walked
doniri = You walked
donori = He/She/It walked
donuri = They walked
doneri = You walked (this form is used when talking to more than one person)
donauri = We walked (this form is used when the person spoken to, is not included in the "we")
donairi = We walked (this form is used when the person spoken to, is included in the "we")
Note that the last form is used where in English you would use "you" or "one" (if you were a bit posh) ... as in "YOU do it like this", "ONE must do ONE'S best, mustn't one".
LINGUISTIC JARGON ... This pronoun is often called the "impersonal pronoun" or the "indefinite pronoun".
So we have 7 different forms for person and number.
Evidentiality
About a quarter of the words languages have, what is called "evidentiality" expressed in the verb. That is you can say (or you must say) on what evidence you are saying what you are saying. In Limbawa there are 3 evidentials which can optionally be added to the verb.
donori = He walked
donorin = They say he walked
donoria = I saw him walk
donoris = I guess he walked
The "A" form is only used with the past tense. We can call the the "IA" form.
LINGUISTIC JARGON ...These 3 evidential forms would usually be called the "reported", "seen" and "inferred" forms.
Pronouns
| I | pas | we (includes "you") | yuas | me | pa | us | yua |
| we | wias | us | wia | ||||
| you | gis | you (plural) | jes | you | gi | you (plural) | je |
| he, she | nos | they | nus | him, her | no | them | nu |
| it | as | they | as | it | a | them | a |
As seen above ... LIMBAWA has 2 cases : the ergative (-S) and the absolutive (- ). For citation, after a preposition or in copula clauses it is always the unmarked case that is used
Common prepositions
da ... at ne ... for
kaunu ... a coat
| my coat | kaunapu |
| our coat ("our" includes "you") | kaunayu |
| our coat ("our excludes "you") | kaunawu |
| your coat | kaunigu |
| your coat (with "you" being plural) | kauneju |
| his/her coat | kaunonu |
| their coat | kaununu |
na before a noun makes a genitive construction and the whole thing can be considered an adjective. For example kolo na kaunu ... the collar of the coat/the coat's collar.
ni before a noun makes a genitive construction and the whole thing can be considered an adjective. However in this case the meaning is strictly "possession" and the noun must be human. When the noun is a pronoun we get a a special possessive form. For example NI PAni pa doesn't occur but we get pan
pan ... mine yuan ... ours wian ... ours gin ... yours jen ... yours non ... his/hers don ... theirs
Use the same pattern for demonstratives ? i.e. kaunu de ... that coat den ... that
dade ... there dai ... here
the copula's
For existence use gasa For identity use sau For attribute use sau or bia For location use bia
Notice that an attribute can be introduced by either sau or bia Basically sau introduced a characteristic feature and bia introduces a temporary state. (page 175) House dirty He sick
If no T.A.M. information or emphasis on the copula, the copula sau is always dropped.
In fact, while transitive and intransitive sentences have free word order, sau and bia (plus belia and selau) sentences have a fixed ordering of components.
sau ...
sau and gasa are irregular. If aspect and evidentuality are unmarked, then the person is not expressed in the verb either. That is, there are 3 depleted forms of sau : ro, ri, ru and and 3 depleted forms of gasa : @a, @ai , @au . These six words are extremely common.
| am, are, is | ro | was, were | ri | will be | ru |
| there is, there are | @a | there was, there were | @ai | there will be | @au |
selbo di ro jeu = this drink/beverage is cold
ro is usually dropped.
For example you would say ... pa moltai = I am a doctor and not normally pa ro moltai
When ro is used, it is often used to refute a claim.
For example
1) gi mo ro moltai 2) pa ro moltai
ro also tends to be used if the subject or the copula complement are long trains of words for example ????????
KAUNIGA MO RO BOI ... your coat is no good KAUNAPA RO BOI ... my coat is good KAUNAPA BOI YA .... YA being an emphatic particle
2+3 = 5 .... Obviously we can not use the copula for "="
Simplest (Present Tense) of course the pronoun can not be dropped.
PA RO JUTU ... I am big ... PA JUTU GI RO JUTU ... you are big ... GI JUTU NO RO JUTU ... he/she/it is big ... NO JUTU
Tenses included Aspects included
PA RU JUTU ... I will be big SARUA JUTU ... I will have been good PA RI JUTU ... I was big SARIA JUTU ... I had been big PA RO JUTU ... I am big SARA JUTU ... I have been big
Apart from the 3 constructions (above right), aspect does not combine with the copula.
Evidentials included
SORIS JUTU ... He was big (I saw myself) (only occurs with the past tense)
SORON JUTU ... They say she is big SORUJA JUTU ... I guess she will be big
SORU JUTU ... SORUJA Quite often added as an afterthought
The above two even dental markers introduce some doubt. When the verity of the sentence is not in question, the unmarked form is used i.e.
Other words that define the VP (verb phrase) included
MO SORON JUTU ... They say she is not big LOI MO RO JUTU ... probably she is not big LOI MO SORON JUTU ... They say she is probably not big MAS MO RO JUTU ... maybe she isn't big MAS MO SORON JUTU ... They say maybe she isn't big
SIYA BOI ... be good (when speaking to one person) SEYA BOI ... ... be good (when speaking to one person)
... SAU
GASA ...
There is a word with the meaning "have", but it is used rarely. The usual way to say "I have a coat" ... !A KAUNU PAN (there is a coat mine) ... or why not simply !A KAUNAPU ?
A slightly idiomatic usage, is to say !A JEU PAN ... This means "I feel cold" with emphasis on the uniqueness/unexpectedness of "I"
For existence use GASA !A ... there is !AU ... there will be !AI ... there was GASA always appears with a noun ... JEUNE !A (coldness there is) ... it is cold However if GASA occurs immediately before an adjective, then that adjective is considered to be converted to a noun. For example !A JEU (there is cold) ... it is cold
The word order preferred when using !A/!AI/!AU, is !A/!AI/!AU first.
The forms !A/!AI/!AU can not be used when evidential information, perfect aspect or person other than the third must be included.
GASAR ... I exist GASORI ... He/she/it existed (this form can be used as well as the forms NO !AI /A !AI) LOI GASORIN ... They say, he probably existed
MO !A god ... god does not exist
... GASA
BELIA ... to arrive SELAU ... to become. this is the infinitive ... the common form is ( LAR)