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== Tense and Aspect ==
== Tense and Aspect ==


DONO = to walk
'''dono''' = to walk




DONARI = I walked
'''donari''' = I walked


DONARLI = I was walking
'''donarli''' = I was walking


DONARWI = I used to walk
'''donarwi''' = I used to walk


DONARTI = I had walked
'''donarti''' = I had walked




DONARA = I am walking
'''donarla''' = I am walking


DONARWA = I walk
'''donarwa''' = I walk


DONARTA = I have walked
'''donara''' = I have walked


Note ... There is no form DONARLA
Note ... There is no form '''donarta'''. You would expect '''donarta''', but this has been "eroded" down to '''donara''' thru' much use.


Note ... The form DONARWA is used if you habitually walk in the past, the present and there is no reason to suppose that you will not do so in the future. It doesn't imply that you are actually walking at the speech-act-time
Note ... The form '''donarwa''' is used if you habitually walk in the past, the present and there is no reason to suppose that you will not do so in the future. It doesn't imply that you are actually walking at the speech-act-time


DONARU = I will walk
'''donaru''' = I will walk


DONARLU = I will be walking
'''donarlu''' = I will be walking


DONARWU = I will walk
'''donarwu''' = I will walk


DONARTU = I will have walked
'''donartu''' = I will have walked


Note ... The form DONARU is used if the act of walking is just a one off ... for example in answer to the question "how are you going to the supermarket". But suppose that you had just moved house and the question "how will you get to the supermarket" is envisioning many instances of "walking" ... then the proper response would be DONARWU.
Note ... The form '''donaru''' is used if the act of walking is just a one off ... for example in answer to the question "how are you going to the supermarket". But suppose that you had just moved house and the question "how will you get to the supermarket" is envisioning many instances of "walking" ... then the proper response would be '''donarwu'''.


DONAR = I walk
'''donar''' = I walk


Note that in translating "I walk" from English you have a choice of DONARWA or DONAR. Generally the "-RWA" form should be used if your possible walking time is interspersed with periods of non-walking. This form mean "sometimes I walk, and sometimes I choose not to walk". Or it can mean "I usually walk".
Note that in translating "I walk" from English you have a choice of '''donarwa''' or '''donar'''. Generally the "-RWA" form should be used if your possible walking time is interspersed with periods of non-walking. '''donarwa''' could be translated as "sometimes I walk, and sometimes I choose not to walk" or even "I usually walk".


Note ... if you say "I walk to church every Sunday" you have a choice of...
Note ... if you say "I walk to church every Sunday" you have a choice of...


1) using DONARWA and dropping the Limbawa equivalent to "every".
1) using '''donarwa''' and dropping the Limbawa equivalent to "every".


2) using DONAR and using the Limbawa equivalent to "every".
2) using '''donar''' and using the Limbawa equivalent to "every".




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== Person and Number ==
== Person and Number ==


DONARI = I walked
'''donari''' = I walked


DONIRI = You walked
'''doniri''' = You walked


DONORI = He/She/It walked
'''donori''' = He/She/It walked


DONURI = They walked
'''donuri''' = They walked


DONERI = You walked (this form is used when talking to more than one person)
'''doneri''' = You walked (this form is used when talking to more than one person)


DONAURI = We walked (this form is used when the person spoken to, is not included in the "we")
'''donauri''' = We walked (this form is used when the person spoken to, is not included in the "we")


DONAIRI = We walked (this form is used when the person spoken to, is included in the "we")
'''donairi''' = We walked (this form is used when the person spoken to, is included in the "we")


Note that the last form is used where in English you would use "you" or "one" (if you were a bit posh) ... as in "YOU do it like this", "ONE must do ONE'S best, mustn't one".  
Note that the last form is used where in English you would use "you" or "one" (if you were a bit posh) ... as in "YOU do it like this", "ONE must do ONE'S best, mustn't one".  
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About a quarter of the words languages have, what is called "evidentiality" expressed in the verb. That is you can say (or you must say) on what evidence you are saying what you are saying. In Limbawa there are 3 evidentials which can optionally be added to the verb.
About a quarter of the words languages have, what is called "evidentiality" expressed in the verb. That is you can say (or you must say) on what evidence you are saying what you are saying. In Limbawa there are 3 evidentials which can optionally be added to the verb.


DONORI = He walked
'''donori''' = He walked


DONORIN = They say he walked
'''donorin''' = They say he walked


DONORIA = I saw him walk
'''donoria''' = I saw him walk


DONORIS = I guess he walked
'''donoris''' = I guess he walked




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LINGUISTIC JARGON ...These 3 evidential forms would usually be called the "reported", "seen" and "inferred" forms.
LINGUISTIC JARGON ...These 3 evidential forms would usually be called the "reported", "seen" and "inferred" forms.
== Pronouns ==
{| border=1
  |align=center| I
  |align=center| '''pas'''
  |align=center| we  (includes "you")
  |align=center| '''yuas'''
  |align=center| me
  |align=center| '''pa'''
  |align=center| us
  |align=center| '''yua'''
  |-
  |align=center|
  |align=center|
  |align=center| we
  |align=center| '''wias'''
  |align=center|
  |align=center|
  |align=center| us
  |align=center| '''wia'''
  |-
  |align=center| you
  |align=center| '''gis'''
  |align=center| you (plural)
  |align=center| '''jes'''
  |align=center| you
  |align=center| '''gi'''
  |align=center| you (plural)
  |align=center| '''je'''
  |-
  |align=center| he, she
  |align=center| '''nos'''
  |align=center| they
  |align=center| '''nus'''
  |align=center| him, her
  |align=center| '''no'''
  |align=center| them
  |align=center| '''nu'''
  |-
  |align=center| it
  |align=center| '''as'''
  |align=center| they
  |align=center| '''as'''
  |align=center| it
  |align=center| '''a'''
  |align=center| them
  |align=center| '''a'''
    |}
As seen above ... LIMBAWA  has 2 cases : the ergative (-S) and the absolutive (- ).  For citation, after a preposition or in copula clauses it is always the unmarked case that is used
Common prepositions 
'''da''' ... at      '''ne''' ... for
'''kaunu''' ... a coat
{| border=1
  |align=center| my coat
  |align=center| '''kaunapu'''
  |-
  |align=center| our coat  ("our" includes "you")
  |align=center| '''kaunayu'''
  |-
  |align=center| our coat ("our excludes "you")
  |align=center| '''kaunawu'''
  |-
  |align=center| your coat
  |align=center| '''kaunigu'''
  |-
  |align=center| your coat (with "you" being plural)
  |align=center| '''kauneju'''
  |-
  |align=center| his/her coat
  |align=center| '''kaunonu'''
  |-
  |align=center| their coat
  |align=center| '''kaununu'''
    |}
'''na''' before a noun makes a genitive construction and the whole thing can be considered an adjective. For example '''kolo na kaunu''' ... the collar of the coat/the coat's collar.
'''ni'''  before a noun makes a genitive construction and the whole thing can be considered an adjective. However in this case the meaning is strictly "possession" and the noun must be human. When the noun is a pronoun we get a a special possessive form. For example  NI  PA'''ni pa'''  doesn't occur but we get '''pan'''
'''pan''' ... mine
'''yuan''' ... ours
'''wian''' ... ours
'''gin''' ... yours
'''jen''' ... yours
'''non''' ... his/hers
'''don''' ... theirs
Use the same pattern for demonstratives ?
i.e. '''kaunu de''' ... that coat        '''den''' ... that
'''dade''' ... there
'''dai''' ... here

Revision as of 14:51, 9 February 2012

Tense and Aspect

dono = to walk


donari = I walked

donarli = I was walking

donarwi = I used to walk

donarti = I had walked


donarla = I am walking

donarwa = I walk

donara = I have walked

Note ... There is no form donarta. You would expect donarta, but this has been "eroded" down to donara thru' much use.

Note ... The form donarwa is used if you habitually walk in the past, the present and there is no reason to suppose that you will not do so in the future. It doesn't imply that you are actually walking at the speech-act-time

donaru = I will walk

donarlu = I will be walking

donarwu = I will walk

donartu = I will have walked

Note ... The form donaru is used if the act of walking is just a one off ... for example in answer to the question "how are you going to the supermarket". But suppose that you had just moved house and the question "how will you get to the supermarket" is envisioning many instances of "walking" ... then the proper response would be donarwu.

donar = I walk

Note that in translating "I walk" from English you have a choice of donarwa or donar. Generally the "-RWA" form should be used if your possible walking time is interspersed with periods of non-walking. donarwa could be translated as "sometimes I walk, and sometimes I choose not to walk" or even "I usually walk".

Note ... if you say "I walk to church every Sunday" you have a choice of...

1) using donarwa and dropping the Limbawa equivalent to "every".

2) using donar and using the Limbawa equivalent to "every".


1) implies that you ONLY go on Sunday

2) leaves open the possibility that you go to church on other days of the week also.


The "-R" form is used to present general truths. For example, in says "birds fly", you would use the "-R" form.

So we have 12 different forms for tense and aspect.

LINGUISTIC JARGON ... tense basically means time and in my system we have past tense "I", present "A" and future "U" tenses.

... aspect in more difficult to explain ... but you can see from the examples, how the different aspects change how the verb relates to the rest of the text/sentence. In Limbawa, three aspects are included in the verb word. These are continuous "L" , habitual "W" and perfect "T".

Person and Number

donari = I walked

doniri = You walked

donori = He/She/It walked

donuri = They walked

doneri = You walked (this form is used when talking to more than one person)

donauri = We walked (this form is used when the person spoken to, is not included in the "we")

donairi = We walked (this form is used when the person spoken to, is included in the "we")

Note that the last form is used where in English you would use "you" or "one" (if you were a bit posh) ... as in "YOU do it like this", "ONE must do ONE'S best, mustn't one".

LINGUISTIC JARGON ... This pronoun is often called the "impersonal pronoun" or the "indefinite pronoun".

So we have 7 different forms for person and number.

Evidentiality

About a quarter of the words languages have, what is called "evidentiality" expressed in the verb. That is you can say (or you must say) on what evidence you are saying what you are saying. In Limbawa there are 3 evidentials which can optionally be added to the verb.

donori = He walked

donorin = They say he walked

donoria = I saw him walk

donoris = I guess he walked


The "A" form is only used with the past tense. We can call the the "IA" form.

LINGUISTIC JARGON ...These 3 evidential forms would usually be called the "reported", "seen" and "inferred" forms.

Pronouns

I pas we (includes "you") yuas me pa us yua
we wias us wia
you gis you (plural) jes you gi you (plural) je
he, she nos they nus him, her no them nu
it as they as it a them a

As seen above ... LIMBAWA has 2 cases : the ergative (-S) and the absolutive (- ). For citation, after a preposition or in copula clauses it is always the unmarked case that is used

Common prepositions

da ... at ne ... for

kaunu ... a coat


my coat kaunapu
our coat ("our" includes "you") kaunayu
our coat ("our excludes "you") kaunawu
your coat kaunigu
your coat (with "you" being plural) kauneju
his/her coat kaunonu
their coat kaununu


na before a noun makes a genitive construction and the whole thing can be considered an adjective. For example kolo na kaunu ... the collar of the coat/the coat's collar. ni before a noun makes a genitive construction and the whole thing can be considered an adjective. However in this case the meaning is strictly "possession" and the noun must be human. When the noun is a pronoun we get a a special possessive form. For example NI PAni pa doesn't occur but we get pan

pan ... mine yuan ... ours wian ... ours gin ... yours jen ... yours non ... his/hers don ... theirs

Use the same pattern for demonstratives ? i.e. kaunu de ... that coat den ... that

dade ... there dai ... here