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== Goals ==
__TOC__
# Endgoal - A truly verbless language I can use
<div style="width:100%; background:#ddd;">
# Vague phrases
<center>
## Glacial pace
==PIE (-4500)==
## Navajo-of-nouns
 
## lazy but clever
Cowgill's Law
## carved in stone
 
## complicated rituals
Osthoff's Law
# Naturalism - 6/10
 
#* I want some naturalistic elements
Sievers's law
#* Different setting (parallel Earth)
 
#* Different nature (immortal humans)
</center>
#* Irregularities but not many
</div>
#* Idioms within reason
 
# Complexity - insane.  Navajo but with only nouns
<table>
# Derivation - clear.  Agglutinative, basically
<tr>
# Features
<td>
## Phonology
<h3>Proto-Germanic (-500)</h3>
### Lazy whole-mouth harmony
 
### A couple of clicks and ejectives (un-earth-like)
 
### CV, and CVC (no ejective coda)
* Grimm's Law, Verner's Law, Primärberührung
## Grammar
 
### No verbs at all
{|class="wikitable" style=text-align:center
### assumed copular between topic and subject
|- style="font-size: 90%;"
### 6 nouns classes (genders), like animacy
|+ Proto-Germanic consonants
### Many cases (12?)
!Type
### Case-stacking
! colspan="2" style="width:20px;"| Bilabial
### word glue, like German
! colspan="2" style="width:20px;"| Dental
### mostly agglutinative, touch of fusional
! colspan="2" style="width:20px;"| Alveolar
## Culture
! colspan="2" style="width:20px;"| Palatal
### things happen, not because someone does them, but because the world unfolds in prescribed patterns
! colspan="2" style="width:20px;"| Velar
### discourse is formulaic, ceremonial, or sacred: more on set relational expressions and fixed semantic roles, rather than on active description of novel events
! colspan="2" style="width:20px;"| Labial–<br>velar
### agency is less linguistically salient, so predicates assigning blame, initiative, or creativity are avoided
|-
### Tidally Locked Planet
! Nasal
#### The sun never moves in the sky.
|  style="width:20px; border-right:0;"| ||  style="width:20px; border-left:0;"|{{IPA|m}}
#### The world is divided into zones of permanent day, eternal night, and a narrow habitable twilight ring.
|colspan=2|
#### People live in a stable band where temperature and light are forever the same.
|  style="width:20px; border-right:0;"| ||  style="width:20px; border-left:0;"|{{IPA|n}}
### Mountain life
|colspan=2|
#### Isolated communities → heavy internal consistency, less external pressure to simplify
|  style="width:20px; border-right:0;"| ||  style="width:20px; border-left:0;"|({{IPA|ŋ}})
#### Thin air → favoring sharp, closed articulation: ejectives, glottalization, voiceless stops
| style="width:20px; border-right:0;"| ||  style="width:20px; border-left:0;"|({{IPA|ŋʷ}})
#### Cultural inwardness → deep philosophies of stasis and permanence
### Time is measured in generations, epochs, weathering of stone, growth cycles of ultra-slow plants
{| class="wikitable"
! Case !! Function !! Gloss
|+ Existential cases
|-
|-
! Topical
! [[Stop consonant|Stop]]
| Frames the referent of the utterance || “As for…”
|style="border-right: 0;"|{{IPA|p}}||style="border-left: 0;"|{{IPA|b}}
| style="width:20px; border-right:0;"|{{IPA|t}}||  style="width:20px; border-left:0;"|{{IPA|d}}
|colspan=2|
|colspan=2|
|style="border-right: 0;"|{{IPA|k}}||style="border-left: 0;"|{{IPA|ɡ}}
|style="border-right: 0;"|{{IPA|kʷ}}||style="border-left: 0;"|{{IPA|ɡʷ}}
|-
|-
! Identity
! [[Fricative consonant|Fricative]]
| Category, essence, nominal predicate || “is a…” / “equals…”
|style="border-right: 0;"|{{IPA|ɸ}}||style="border-left: 0;"|({{IPA|β}})
|style="border-right: 0;"|{{IPA|θ}}||style="border-left: 0;"|({{IPA|ð}})
|style="border-right: 0;"|{{IPA|s}}||style="border-left: 0;"|{{IPA|z}}
|colspan=2|
|style="border-right: 0;"|{{IPA|x}}||style="border-left: 0;"|({{IPA|ɣ}})
|style="border-right: 0;"|{{IPA|xʷ}}||style="border-left: 0;"|
|-
|-
! Possessive
! [[Approximant consonant|Approximant]]
| ownership, authorship, kinship, part-whole || “X’s Y”
|colspan=2|
|colspan=2|
|colspan=2| {{{IPA|l}}}
| style="width:20px; border-right:0;"| ||  style="width:20px; border-left:0;"|{{IPA|j}}
|colspan=2|
|style="border-right: 0;"| ||style="border-left: 0;"|{{IPA|w}}
|-
|-
! Genitive
! [[Trill consonant|Trill]]
| association, content, theme, objective, attribution || “Y of X”
|colspan=2|
|colspan=2|
|style="border-right: 0;"| ||style="border-left: 0;"|{{IPA|r}}
|colspan=2|
|colspan=2|
|colspan=2|
|}
|}
Vowels
* i iː ĩ ĩː
* e eː
* ɛː ɛːː
* ɑ ɑː ɑ̃ ɑ̃ː
* ɔː ɔːː ɔ̃ː ɔ̃ːː
* u uː ũ ũː
Diphthongs
* Short: /ɑu/, /ɑi/, /eu/, /iu/ (from i-umlaut of /eu/) before /i/ or /j/
* Long: /ɔːu/, /ɔːi/, (possibly /ɛːu/, /ɛːi/)
:  ô (aka ɔːː) became -a in ON and OE, but -oin OHG
: -ǭ became -a in OHG but -e in OE
: -ōn became -ōn in OHG but -an in OE
</td>
<td>
<h3>Proto-Celtic (-800)</h3>


{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
|+ Where/When Cases
|+ Proto-Celtic consonants
! Case !! Function !! Typical gloss
|-
|-
! Locative
! Type
| Place, state, context of being, time-within || “in,” “at,” “on”, "during"
! colspan=2|&nbsp;[[Bilabial consonant|Bilabial]]&nbsp;
! colspan=2|&nbsp;[[Alveolar consonant|Alveolar]]&nbsp;
! colspan=2|&nbsp;[[Palatal consonant|Palatal]]&nbsp;
! colspan=2|&nbsp;[[Velar consonant|Velar]]&nbsp;
! colspan=2| Labial–<br>velar
|- style="text-align:center;"
! [[Nasal stop|Nasal]]
| colspan=2|{{IPA|m}}
| colspan=2|{{IPA|n}}
| colspan=2|
| colspan=2|({{IPA|ŋ}})
| colspan=2|({{IPA|ŋʷ}})
|- style="text-align:center;"
! [[Plosive consonant|Plosive]]
|
| {{IPA|b}}
| {{IPA|t}}
| {{IPA|d}}
| colspan=2|
| {{IPA|k}}
| {{IPA|ɡ}}
| {{IPA|kʷ}}
| {{IPA|ɡʷ}}
|- style="text-align:center;"
! [[Fricative consonant|Fricative]]
| {{IPA|ɸ}}
|
| {{IPA|s}}
|
| colspan=2|
| colspan=2| x
| colspan=2|
|- style="text-align:center;"
! [[Approximant consonant|Approximant]]
| colspan=2|
| colspan=2| {{IPA|l}}
| colspan=2|{{IPA|j}}
| colspan=2|
| colspan=2| {{IPA|w}}
|- style="text-align:center;"
! [[Trill consonant|Trill]]
| colspan=2|
| colspan=2| {{IPA|r}}
| colspan=2|
| colspan=2|
| colspan=2|
|}
 
 
* then kʷ/p/_  (P-Celtic)
 
Vowels
* i iː
* e
* a aː
* o oː
* u uː
and au, ai, ou, oi
</td>
</tr>
</table>
 
<table style="width:100%; background:#ddd;">
<tr>
<td colspan=2>
<center>
 
== Through Roman Times ==
</center>
</td>
</tr>
<tr>
<td>
=== Western Germanic ===
Ingvaeonic and Irminonic
 
* /ɛː/, also written ǣ,  to ā
* umlaut
* z/r/V_V
* demonstrative ''this''
* C/C²/_j  West Germanic gemination
 
Decision Time!
* V/Ã/_NF  Ingvaeonic nasal spirant law (vowel + nasal + voiceless fricative = nasal-vowel + fric.)
* k/ts/_[ie]    palatalization of k
 
</td>
<td>
=== Insular Celtic ===
a.k.a Brittonic
 
* keep am and an
* u/gw/#_
* s/h/#_V
* s//#_[lmn]
* sp/f/#_
* sr/fr/#_
* sw/xw/#_
* P/B/V_V  Voiceless stops become voiced stops in intervocalic position
* B/Z/V_V  Voiced plosives and /m/ became soft spirants in an intervocalic position
* B/Z/_L    Voiced plosives and /m/ became soft spirants before liquids
* P/F/_[LV]  Geminated voiceless plosives transformed into spirants before a vowel or liquid
* P/F/L_    Voiceless stops become spirants after liquids
* B//N_    Voiced stops were assimilated to a preceding nasal
 
later ɣ/j/_
 
</td>
</tr>
</table>
 
<center>
== Pre-1066 ==
</center>
<table>
<tr>
<td>
=== To Old English ===
* Backing and nasalization of West Germanic a and ā before a nasal consonant
* Loss of n before a spirant, resulting in lengthening and nasalization of preceding vowel
* The present and preterite plurals reduced to a single form
* A-fronting: WGmc a, ā → æ, ǣ, even in the diphthongs ai and au (see Anglo-Frisian brightening)
* palatalization of Proto-Germanic *k and *g before front vowels (but not phonemicization of palatals)
* A-restoration: æ, ǣ → a, ā under the influence of neighboring consonants
* Second fronting: OE dialects (except West Saxon) and Frisian ǣ → ē
* A-restoration: a restored before a back vowel in the following syllable (later in the Southumbrian dialects); Frisian æu → au → Old Frisian ā/a
* OE breaking; in West Saxon palatal diphthongization follows
* i-mutation followed by syncope; Old Frisian breaking follows
* Phonemicization of palatals and assibilation, followed by second fronting in parts of West Mercia
* Smoothing and back mutation
 
 
* loss of high vowels in syllable after stress
{| class="wikitable" style=text-align:center
!
! Labial
! [[Dental consonant|Dental]]
! [[Alveolar consonant|Alveolar]]
! [[Postalveolar consonant|Post-<br />alveolar]]
! [[Palatal consonant|Palatal]]
! [[Velar consonant|Velar]]
! [[Glottal consonant|Glottal]]
|-
|-
! Dative
! [[Nasal consonant|Nasal]]
| Target, direction || “to,” “for,” “until", "as far as"
| {{IPA|m}}
|
| ({{IPA|n̥}}) {{IPA|n}}
|
|
| ({{IPA|ŋ}})
|
|-
|-
! Ablative
! [[Stop consonant|Stop]]
| Source, cause, origin || “from,” “because of,” “due to”
| {{IPA|p}} {{IPA|b}}
|
| {{IPA|t}} {{IPA|d}}
|
|
| {{IPA|k}} {{IPA|ɡ}}
|
|-
|-
! Benefactive
! [[Affricate consonant|Affricate]]
| Advantage, interest, concern || “for the benefit of…”, "at the behest of"
|
|
|
| {{IPA|tʃ}} ({{IPA|dʒ}})
|
|
|
|-
|-
! Abessive
! [[Fricative consonant|Fricative]]
| Absence, privation, “lacking” || “without,” “lacking,” “free from”, "exclude"
| {{IPA|f}} ({{IPA|v}})
| {{IPA|θ}} ({{IPA|ð}})
| {{IPA|s}} ({{IPA|z}})
| {{IPA|ʃ}}
| ({{IPA|ç}})
| ({{IPA|x}} {{IPA|ɣ}})
| {{IPA|h}}
|-
! [[Approximant consonant|Approximant]]
|
|
| ({{IPA|l̥}}) {{IPA|l}}
|
| {{IPA|j}}
| ({{IPA|ʍ}}) {{IPA|w}}
|
|-
! [[Trill consonant|Trill]]
|
|
|colspan=2| ({{IPA|r̥}}) {{IPA|r}}
|
|
|
|}
|}


{| class="wikitable"
</td>
|+ How Cases
<td>
! Case !! Function !! Typical gloss
=== To Middle Welsh ===
|-
* Vː → V / _#
! Instrumental
* ei → eː
| Means, medium, material || “by (means of)”, “through,” “with”, "using"
* st → sː (with some exceptions)
** initial str → צ , middle/end str → sr
* ai → ɛ
* s → ∅ / V_V
* V → ə / _(C)#, also in proclitics
* s → ∅ / x_
* {au,eu,ou} → ∅
* uː {oi,ɔː} → yː uː
* j → ð / V_
* i u → e o / _Ca
* yː → ɨ
* p t k {b,m} d ɡ → b d ɡ v ð ɣ / _V
* aː → ɔː
* a o → ei {ɨ,ei} / _(C…)j(C…)#
* a → {ɨ,ei} / _(C…)j(C…)#
* V → ɨ / _(C…)j(C…)#
* {a,o} → e / _(C…)i(ː)
* {a,e,o} → ei / _(C…)j
* V → ∅ / _#
* mb nd ŋɡ → mː nː ŋː
* e → i / _N
* $ → h / V_ (what $ is is unclear)
* V → ∅ / _[+intertonic]
* pː tː kː → f θ x
* p t k → f θ x / {r,l}_
* ɣ → i / _C
* xt → iθ
* ɣ → i / C_V
* ɛː → ui
* ɔː → au / when stressed
* l → ɬ / _t
* w → gw / #[aeou] - w to gw before vowels-not-i
* mp nt ŋk → m̥ n̥ ŋ̊
* ɔ → ə / #_sC
* l r → ɬ r̥ / #_
* ɣ → ə / _#
 
{| class="wikitable" style="text-align: center;"
|
! Labial
! Dental
! Alveolar
! Post-<br/>alveolar
! Palatal
! Velar
! Glottal
|-
|-
! Adverbial
! Nasal
| Role/state modifier, part of speech shift || “as (a) X,” “in a X way”, "like"
| {{IPA|m̥}} {{IPA|m}}
|
| {{IPA|n̥}} {{IPA|n}}
|
|
| {{IPA|ŋ̊}} {{IPA|ŋ}}
|
|-
|-
! Translative
! Stop
| Change of state, transformation || “becoming,” “into,” “turning into”
| {{IPA|p b}}
|}
|
 
| {{IPA|t d}}
{| class="wikitable"
|
|+ Noun Classes
|
! !! Not "Container" (mass: ?, ??) !! "Container" (count: ?, ??)
| {{IPA|k g}}
|
|-
|-
! Idea + Matter
! Fricative
| Animals (also temperaments) || Persons / Gods
| {{IPA|f v}}
| {{IPA|θ ð}}
| {{IPA|s z}}
| {{IPA|ɬ}} ({{IPA|ʃ}})
|
| {{IPA|x}}
| {{IPA|h}}
|-
|-
! Matter only
! Approximant
| (Diffuse) Substances: air, fire || Tools , "rocks"
|
|
| {{IPA|l}}
|
| {{IPA|j}}
| {{IPA|w}}
|
|-
|-
! Idea only
! Trill
| Actions || Abstracts, Categories, Sets
|
|
| {{IPA|r̥ r}}
|
|
|
|
|}
|}


Number: Containers are unmarked for number, as in Chinese/Japanese/Korean.  Non-containers default to a collective/mass-noun number, but can take a partitive (which can mean as few as one).
</td>
 
</tr>
Polypersonal pronouns:
</table>
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Latest revision as of 14:11, 6 October 2025

PIE (-4500)

Cowgill's Law

Osthoff's Law

Sievers's law

Proto-Germanic (-500)


  • Grimm's Law, Verner's Law, Primärberührung
Proto-Germanic consonants
Type Bilabial Dental Alveolar Palatal Velar Labial–
velar
Nasal m n (ŋ) (ŋʷ)
Stop p b t d k ɡ ɡʷ
Fricative ɸ (β) θ (ð) s z x (ɣ)
Approximant l j w
Trill r

Vowels

  • i iː ĩ ĩː
  • e eː
  • ɛː ɛːː
  • ɑ ɑː ɑ̃ ɑ̃ː
  • ɔː ɔːː ɔ̃ː ɔ̃ːː
  • u uː ũ ũː

Diphthongs

  • Short: /ɑu/, /ɑi/, /eu/, /iu/ (from i-umlaut of /eu/) before /i/ or /j/
  • Long: /ɔːu/, /ɔːi/, (possibly /ɛːu/, /ɛːi/)
ô (aka ɔːː) became -a in ON and OE, but -oin OHG
-ǭ became -a in OHG but -e in OE
-ōn became -ōn in OHG but -an in OE

Proto-Celtic (-800)

Proto-Celtic consonants
Type  Bilabial   Alveolar   Palatal   Velar  Labial–
velar
Nasal m n (ŋ) (ŋʷ)
Plosive b t d k ɡ ɡʷ
Fricative ɸ s x
Approximant l j w
Trill r


  • then kʷ/p/_ (P-Celtic)

Vowels

  • i iː
  • e
  • a aː
  • o oː
  • u uː

and au, ai, ou, oi

Through Roman Times

Western Germanic

Ingvaeonic and Irminonic

  • /ɛː/, also written ǣ, to ā
  • umlaut
  • z/r/V_V
  • demonstrative this
  • C/C²/_j West Germanic gemination

Decision Time!

  • V/Ã/_NF Ingvaeonic nasal spirant law (vowel + nasal + voiceless fricative = nasal-vowel + fric.)
  • k/ts/_[ie] palatalization of k

Insular Celtic

a.k.a Brittonic

  • keep am and an
  • u/gw/#_
  • s/h/#_V
  • s//#_[lmn]
  • sp/f/#_
  • sr/fr/#_
  • sw/xw/#_
  • P/B/V_V Voiceless stops become voiced stops in intervocalic position
  • B/Z/V_V Voiced plosives and /m/ became soft spirants in an intervocalic position
  • B/Z/_L Voiced plosives and /m/ became soft spirants before liquids
  • P/F/_[LV] Geminated voiceless plosives transformed into spirants before a vowel or liquid
  • P/F/L_ Voiceless stops become spirants after liquids
  • B//N_ Voiced stops were assimilated to a preceding nasal

later ɣ/j/_

Pre-1066

To Old English

  • Backing and nasalization of West Germanic a and ā before a nasal consonant
  • Loss of n before a spirant, resulting in lengthening and nasalization of preceding vowel
  • The present and preterite plurals reduced to a single form
  • A-fronting: WGmc a, ā → æ, ǣ, even in the diphthongs ai and au (see Anglo-Frisian brightening)
  • palatalization of Proto-Germanic *k and *g before front vowels (but not phonemicization of palatals)
  • A-restoration: æ, ǣ → a, ā under the influence of neighboring consonants
  • Second fronting: OE dialects (except West Saxon) and Frisian ǣ → ē
  • A-restoration: a restored before a back vowel in the following syllable (later in the Southumbrian dialects); Frisian æu → au → Old Frisian ā/a
  • OE breaking; in West Saxon palatal diphthongization follows
  • i-mutation followed by syncope; Old Frisian breaking follows
  • Phonemicization of palatals and assibilation, followed by second fronting in parts of West Mercia
  • Smoothing and back mutation


  • loss of high vowels in syllable after stress
Labial Dental Alveolar Post-
alveolar
Palatal Velar Glottal
Nasal m () n (ŋ)
Stop p b t d k ɡ
Affricate ()
Fricative f (v) θ (ð) s (z) ʃ (ç) (x ɣ) h
Approximant () l j (ʍ) w
Trill () r

To Middle Welsh

  • Vː → V / _#
  • ei → eː
  • st → sː (with some exceptions)
    • initial str → צ , middle/end str → sr
  • ai → ɛ
  • s → ∅ / V_V
  • V → ə / _(C)#, also in proclitics
  • s → ∅ / x_
  • {au,eu,ou} → ∅
  • uː {oi,ɔː} → yː uː
  • j → ð / V_
  • i u → e o / _Ca
  • yː → ɨ
  • p t k {b,m} d ɡ → b d ɡ v ð ɣ / _V
  • aː → ɔː
  • a o → ei {ɨ,ei} / _(C…)j(C…)#
  • a → {ɨ,ei} / _(C…)j(C…)#
  • V → ɨ / _(C…)j(C…)#
  • {a,o} → e / _(C…)i(ː)
  • {a,e,o} → ei / _(C…)j
  • V → ∅ / _#
  • mb nd ŋɡ → mː nː ŋː
  • e → i / _N
  • $ → h / V_ (what $ is is unclear)
  • V → ∅ / _[+intertonic]
  • pː tː kː → f θ x
  • p t k → f θ x / {r,l}_
  • ɣ → i / _C
  • xt → iθ
  • ɣ → i / C_V
  • ɛː → ui
  • ɔː → au / when stressed
  • l → ɬ / _t
  • w → gw / #[aeou] - w to gw before vowels-not-i
  • mp nt ŋk → m̥ n̥ ŋ̊
  • ɔ → ə / #_sC
  • l r → ɬ r̥ / #_
  • ɣ → ə / _#
Labial Dental Alveolar Post-
alveolar
Palatal Velar Glottal
Nasal m n ŋ̊ ŋ
Stop p b t d k g
Fricative f v θ ð s z ɬ (ʃ) x h
Approximant l j w
Trill r̥ r

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