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Revision as of 15:16, 22 March 2025
Goals
- Endgoal - A truly verbless language I can use
- Vague phrases
- Glacial pace
- Navajo-of-nouns
- lazy but clever
- carved in stone
- complicated rituals
- Naturalism - 6/10
- I want some naturalistic elements
- Different setting (parallel Earth)
- Different nature (immortal humans)
- Irregularities but not many
- Idioms within reason
- Complexity - insane. Navajo but with only nouns
- Derivation - clear. Agglutinative, basically
- Features
- Phonology
- Lazy whole-mouth harmony
- A couple of clicks and ejectives (un-earth-like)
- CV, and CVC (no ejective coda)
- Grammar
- No verbs at all
- assumed copular between topic and subject
- 6 nouns classes (genders), like animacy
- Many cases (12?)
- Case-stacking
- word glue, like German
- mostly agglutinative, touch of fusional
- Culture
- things happen, not because someone does them, but because the world unfolds in prescribed patterns
- discourse is formulaic, ceremonial, or sacred: more on set relational expressions and fixed semantic roles, rather than on active description of novel events
- agency is less linguistically salient, so predicates assigning blame, initiative, or creativity are avoided
- Tidally Locked Planet
- The sun never moves in the sky.
- The world is divided into zones of permanent day, eternal night, and a narrow habitable twilight ring.
- People live in a stable band where temperature and light are forever the same.
- Mountain life
- Isolated communities → heavy internal consistency, less external pressure to simplify
- Thin air → favoring sharp, closed articulation: ejectives, glottalization, voiceless stops
- Cultural inwardness → deep philosophies of stasis and permanence
- Time is measured in generations, epochs, weathering of stone, growth cycles of ultra-slow plants
- Phonology
| Case | Function | Gloss |
|---|---|---|
| Topical | Frames the referent of the utterance | “As for…” |
| Identity | Category, essence, nominal predicate | “is a…” / “equals…” |
| Possessive | ownership, authorship, kinship, part-whole | “X’s Y” |
| Genitive | association, content, theme, objective, attribution | “Y of X” |
| Case | Function | Typical gloss |
|---|---|---|
| Locative | Place, state, context of being, time-within | “in,” “at,” “on”, "during" |
| Dative | Target, direction | “to,” “for,” “until", "as far as" |
| Ablative | Source, cause, origin | “from,” “because of,” “due to” |
| Benefactive | Advantage, interest, concern | “for the benefit of…”, "at the behest of" |
| Abessive | Absence, privation, “lacking” | “without,” “lacking,” “free from”, "exclude" |
| Case | Function | Typical gloss |
|---|---|---|
| Instrumental | Means, medium, material | “by (means of)”, “through,” “with”, "using" |
| Adverbial | Role/state modifier, part of speech shift | “as (a) X,” “in a X way”, "like" |
| Translative | Change of state, transformation | “becoming,” “into,” “turning into” |
| Not "Container" (mass: ?, ??) | "Container" (count: ?, ??) | |
|---|---|---|
| Idea + Matter | Animals (also temperaments) | Persons / Gods |
| Matter only | (Diffuse) Substances: air, fire | Tools , "rocks" |
| Idea only | Actions | Abstracts, Categories, Sets |
Number: Containers are unmarked for number, as in Chinese/Japanese/Korean. Non-containers default to a collective/mass-noun number, but can take a partitive (which can mean as few as one).
Polypersonal pronouns: