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Bɨɨše

2010-04-29T17:13:01Z

Kicgan Vekei:

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|colspan="2" bgcolor="#CCFF00" align="center" |'''Bɨɨše'''
|-
|valign="top"|Pronounced:
|| /'b1:Se/
|-
|valign="top"|Spoken in:
|| The eastern half of Merista and most of Iliant
|-
|valign="top"|Timeline/Universe:
|| Unnamed
|-
|valign="top"|Total speakers:
||I can't count them all!
|-
|valign="top"|Genealogical classification:
||[[Proto-Lorošae-Hansit-Kentaval]]
:Eastern
::Zuonvokeilaha
:::Esiarkeilaha
::::Essuonullā
:::::Izimban
::::::Izỳbà
:::::::Lorošae-Mèsóc
::::::::Lorošae
:::::::::'''Bɨɨše'''
|-
|colspan="2" bgcolor="#CCFF00" align="center" |'''Created by:'''
|-
||[[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]]||2008-
|}

==Phonology==
===Consonants===
:p /p/, b /b/, t /t/, d /d/, ʈ /ʈ/, ɖ /ɖ/, k /k/, g /g/, q /q/
:f /f/, v /v/, s /s/, z /z/, š /ʃ/, ž /ʒ/, x /X/, ğ /R/

===Vowels===
: i /i/, y /y/, ɨ /1/, u /u/
: ụ /U/
: e /e/, ø /2/, o /o/
: ė /E/, ạ /V/, ȯ /O/
: a /a/
===Diphthongs===
===Phonotactics===
===Syllable structure===
===Stress===

[[Category:Conlangs by Kicgan Vekei]]

Lorošae

2010-04-29T16:48:27Z

Kicgan Vekei: Redirected page to Bɨɨše

#REDIRECT [[Bɨɨše]]

Wơơše

2010-04-29T16:47:33Z

Kicgan Vekei: moved Wơơše to Bɨɨše: That's the new name.

#REDIRECT [[Bɨɨše]]

Bɨɨše

2010-04-29T16:47:33Z

Kicgan Vekei: moved Wơơše to Bɨɨše: That's the new name.

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|colspan="2" bgcolor="#CCFF00" align="center" |'''Lorošae'''
|-
|valign="top"|Pronounced:
|| /'loroSai/
|-
|valign="top"|Spoken in:
|| The eastern half of Merista and most of Iliant
|-
|valign="top"|Timeline/Universe:
|| Unnamed
|-
|valign="top"|Total speakers:
||I can't count them all!
|-
|valign="top"|Genealogical classification:
||[[Proto-Lorošae-Hansit-Kentaval]]
:Eastern
::Zuonvokeilaha
:::Esiarkeilaha
::::Essuonullā
:::::Izimban
::::::Izỳbà
:::::::Lorošae-Mèsóc
::::::::'''Lorošae'''
|-
|colspan="2" bgcolor="#CCFF00" align="center" |'''Created by:'''
|-
||[[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]]||2008-
|}

==Phonology==
===Consonants===
:p /p/, b /b/, t /t/, d /d/, ʈ /ʈ/, ɖ /ɖ/, k /k/, g /g/, q /q/
:f /f/, v /v/, s /s/, z /z/, š /ʃ/, ž /ʒ/, x /X/, ğ /R/

===Vowels===
===Diphthongs===
===Phonotactics===
===Syllable structure===
===Stress===

[[Category:Conlangs by Kicgan Vekei]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-29T20:51:06Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 14 */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#
* ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
* ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
* ʌ > ɔ

===Stage 12===
* back vowel > front vowel / #_
* (çl, lç) > ɬ
* tj, dj > ʧ, ʤ
* ɾj > l
* ja > ɛ

===Stage 13===
* ʧ ʤ > ʃ ʒ
* ʃ > x / #_
* j, jj > ʒ
* f > θ / _[-round]
* l > ɬ

===Stage 14===
* θ f v > t p b /#_
* ɫʒ, ʒɫ > ɮ

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::Makes sense. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

The phonology should solidify sometime within the next few rounds, so that we can get a good idea of what the grammar is becoming.

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pəɛʒɬa ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pəɛʒɬa || pəɛʒɬʒa
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pəɛʒɬʒa || pəɛʒɬaɬ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kamp ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kamp || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampəʒɬ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ɬɛk, ɬɛvɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɬɛk || ɬɛvɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ɬɛvɛ || ɬɛv

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maʒl ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| maʒɬ || maʒɬi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| maʒɬi || man
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ɬɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɬɛ || ɬɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ɬʒai || ɬɛʒl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nə'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βə'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nə || ti || βə
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mʒai || nɛsʈ || təi || βesʈ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nəʒi || tɛʒɛ || βəʒi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nə || tɛ || βə
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, əi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛʒɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pja'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pɛd'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pa || pɛd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| xiʒɬ || xiʒɬ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəʒa || kəʒa
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɛd
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, ɛk, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛk || i || ɛk || ɛ || ɛk || ɛk || ɛʒɬɛ || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬa || eʒɬɛ || ɛʒɬəd || ɛʒɬa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əʒɬ || əʒɬ || əʒɬ || ɒjɬ || əʒɬ || əʒɬ || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬəʒɬ || ɛjɬi || eʒɬaʒɬ || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬəʒɬ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| əɛk || i || əɛk || i || əɛk || i || ɛʒli || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ənk || ə || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || ɛk || ɛʒɬ || ɛʒɬ || ɛʒɬa || ɒʒɬa || ɒʒɬəd || ɛʒɬa
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pɛɛ, pəd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pɛ || pɛ || pəd || pɛ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| xiʒl || pəʒɬ || xiʒɬ || paʒl || xiʒɬ || pəʒɬ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəɛ || pi || kəɛ || pi || kəɛ || pi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pə || pan || pa || pod || pɛ
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒlɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒɬɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬt || pɔɬtam || xaʒɬɛɾ || xaʒɬɛm || pɛs || pɛsim || auzɛɾ || auzim
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬta || pɔɬtasɛ || xaʒɬɛ || xaʒɬɛsɛ || pɛsɛ || pɛsɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtat || pɔɬtant || xaʒɬɛt || xaʒɬɛnt || pɛsɛt || pɛsint || auzɛt || auzɛənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| xaçlɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒɬɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaħa || pɔɬtaβam || xaʒɬɛħa || xajʒɬɛβam || pɛsɛħa || pɛsɛβam || auzɛɛħa || auzɛɛβam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaħa || pɔɬtaβasɛ || xaʒɬɛħa || xaʒɬɛβasɛ || pɛsɛħa || pɛsɛβasɛ || auzɛɛħa || auzɛɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaħat || pɔɬtaħant || xaʒɬɛħat || xaʒɬɛħant || pɛsɛħat || pɛsɛħant || auzɛɛħat || auzɛɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒləɾɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaʒi || pɔɬtaʒɛm || xaʒɬəɾi || xaʒɬəɾim || pɛsiʒi || pɛsiʒimɛ || auziʒi || auziʒɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaβɛsti || pɔɬtaβɛstɛ || xaʒɬəɾɛsti || xaʒɬəɾɛstɛ || pɛsiβɛsti || pɛsiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaut || pɔɬtaβɛʒlənt || xaʒɬəɾɛt || xaʒɬəɾɛjlənt || pɛsiʒɛt || pɛsiβɛʒlənt || auziʒɛt || auziβɛɬənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| xajləɾɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬa || pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬam || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬa || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬam || pɛsiʒɛʒɬa || pɛsiʒɛʒɬam || auziʒɛʒɬa || auziʒɛʒɬam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬa || pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬasɛ || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬa || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬasɛ || pɛsiʒɛʒɬa || pɛsiʒɛʒɬasɛ || auziʒɛʒɬa || auziʒɛʒɬasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬat || pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬant || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬat || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬant || pɛsiʒɛʒɬat || pɛsiʒɛʒɬant || auziʒɛʒɬat || auziʒɛʒɬant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| xajlɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒɬɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaɾ || pɔɬtaɾɛm || xaʒlɛɾ || xaʒlɛɾɛm || pɛsa || pɛsɛm || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaɾɛ || pɔɬtaɾɛsɛ || xaʒlɛɾɛ || xaʒlɛɾɛsɛ || pɛsɛ || pɛsɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaɾɛt || pɔɬtaɾənt || xaʒlɛɾɛt || xaʒlɛɾənt || pɛsʒat || pɛsʒant || auzɛɾɛt || auzɛɾɛnt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒlɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒɬɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬ || pɔɬtaβɛʒɬɛm || xaʒɬəɾɛjɬ || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬɛm || pɛsɛʒɛʒɬ || pɛʒsɛʒɛʒɬɛm || auziʒɛʒɬə || auziʒɛʒɬɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬɛ || pɔɬtaβɛʒɬɛsɛ || xaʒɬəɾɛjɬɛ || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬɛsɛ || pɛsɛʒɛʒɬɛ || pɛsɛʒɛʒɬɛsɛ || auziʒɛʒɬɛ || auziʒɛʒɬɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛɬɛt || pɔɬtaβɛʒɬɛnt || xaʒɬəɾɛjɬɛt || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬɛnt || pɛsɛʒɛʒɬɛt || pɛsɛʒɛʒɬɛsɛ || auziʒɛʒɬɛt || auziʒɛʒɬɛnt
|}

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Subjunctive Active Present
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒɬɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒɬɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First person
| pɔɬtʃa || pɔɬtem || xaʒɬʒaɾaː || xaʒɬʒaɾam || pɛsa || pɛsam || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second person
| pɔʎte || pɔɬtɛsɛ || xaʒɬʒaɾaː || xaʒɬʒaɾasɛ || pɛsa || pɛsasɛ || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third person
| pɔɬtet || pɔɬtʃant || xaʒɬʒaɾat || xaʒɬʒaɾant || pɛsat || pɛsant || auzɛɾat || auzɛɾant
|}
[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-28T22:42:17Z

Kicgan Vekei:

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#
* ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
* ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
* ʌ > ɔ

===Stage 12===
* back vowel > front vowel / #_
* (çl, lç) > ɬ
* tj, dj > ʧ, ʤ
* ɾj > l
* ja > ɛ

===Stage 13===
* ʧ ʤ > ʃ ʒ
* ʃ > x / #_
* j, jj > ʒ
* f > θ / _[-round]
* l > ɬ

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::Makes sense. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

The phonology should solidify sometime within the next few rounds, so that we can get a good idea of what the grammar is becoming.

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pəɛʒɬa ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pəɛʒɬa || pəɛʒɬʒa
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pəɛʒɬʒa || pəɛʒɬaɬ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kamp ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kamp || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampəʒɬ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ɬɛk, ɬɛvɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɬɛk || ɬɛvɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ɬɛvɛ || ɬɛv

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maʒl ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| maʒɬ || maʒɬi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| maʒɬi || man
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ɬɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɬɛ || ɬɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ɬʒai || ɬɛʒl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nə'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βə'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nə || ti || βə
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mʒai || nɛsʈ || təi || βesʈ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nəʒi || tɛʒɛ || βəʒi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nə || tɛ || βə
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, əi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛʒɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pja'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pɛd'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pa || pɛd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| xiʒɬ || xiʒɬ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəʒa || kəʒa
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɛd
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, ɛk, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛk || i || ɛk || ɛ || ɛk || ɛk || ɛʒɬɛ || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬa || eʒɬɛ || ɛʒɬəd || ɛʒɬa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əʒɬ || əʒɬ || əʒɬ || ɒjɬ || əʒɬ || əʒɬ || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬəʒɬ || ɛjɬi || eʒɬaʒɬ || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬəʒɬ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| əɛk || i || əɛk || i || əɛk || i || ɛʒli || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬi || ɛʒɬi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ənk || ə || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || ɛk || ɛʒɬ || ɛʒɬ || ɛʒɬa || ɒʒɬa || ɒʒɬəd || ɛʒɬa
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pɛɛ, pəd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pɛ || pɛ || pəd || pɛ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| xiʒl || pəʒɬ || xiʒɬ || paʒl || xiʒɬ || pəʒɬ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəɛ || pi || kəɛ || pi || kəɛ || pi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pə || pan || pa || pod || pɛ
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒlɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒɬɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬt || pɔɬtam || xaʒɬɛɾ || xaʒɬɛm || pɛs || pɛsim || auzɛɾ || auzim
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬta || pɔɬtasɛ || xaʒɬɛ || xaʒɬɛsɛ || pɛsɛ || pɛsɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtat || pɔɬtant || xaʒɬɛt || xaʒɬɛnt || pɛsɛt || pɛsint || auzɛt || auzɛənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| xaçlɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒɬɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaħa || pɔɬtaβam || xaʒɬɛħa || xajʒɬɛβam || pɛsɛħa || pɛsɛβam || auzɛɛħa || auzɛɛβam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaħa || pɔɬtaβasɛ || xaʒɬɛħa || xaʒɬɛβasɛ || pɛsɛħa || pɛsɛβasɛ || auzɛɛħa || auzɛɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaħat || pɔɬtaħant || xaʒɬɛħat || xaʒɬɛħant || pɛsɛħat || pɛsɛħant || auzɛɛħat || auzɛɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒləɾɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaʒi || pɔɬtaʒɛm || xaʒɬəɾi || xaʒɬəɾim || pɛsiʒi || pɛsiʒimɛ || auziʒi || auziʒɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaβɛsti || pɔɬtaβɛstɛ || xaʒɬəɾɛsti || xaʒɬəɾɛstɛ || pɛsiβɛsti || pɛsiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaut || pɔɬtaβɛʒlənt || xaʒɬəɾɛt || xaʒɬəɾɛjlənt || pɛsiʒɛt || pɛsiβɛʒlənt || auziʒɛt || auziβɛɬənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| xajləɾɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬa || pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬam || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬa || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬam || pɛsiʒɛʒɬa || pɛsiʒɛʒɬam || auziʒɛʒɬa || auziʒɛʒɬam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬa || pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬasɛ || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬa || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬasɛ || pɛsiʒɛʒɬa || pɛsiʒɛʒɬasɛ || auziʒɛʒɬa || auziʒɛʒɬasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬat || pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬant || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬat || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬant || pɛsiʒɛʒɬat || pɛsiʒɛʒɬant || auziʒɛʒɬat || auziʒɛʒɬant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| xajlɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒɬɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaɾ || pɔɬtaɾɛm || xaʒlɛɾ || xaʒlɛɾɛm || pɛsa || pɛsɛm || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaɾɛ || pɔɬtaɾɛsɛ || xaʒlɛɾɛ || xaʒlɛɾɛsɛ || pɛsɛ || pɛsɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaɾɛt || pɔɬtaɾənt || xaʒlɛɾɛt || xaʒlɛɾənt || pɛsʒat || pɛsʒant || auzɛɾɛt || auzɛɾɛnt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒlɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒɬɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬ || pɔɬtaβɛʒɬɛm || xaʒɬəɾɛjɬ || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬɛm || pɛsɛʒɛʒɬ || pɛʒsɛʒɛʒɬɛm || auziʒɛʒɬə || auziʒɛʒɬɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒɬɛ || pɔɬtaβɛʒɬɛsɛ || xaʒɬəɾɛjɬɛ || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬɛsɛ || pɛsɛʒɛʒɬɛ || pɛsɛʒɛʒɬɛsɛ || auziʒɛʒɬɛ || auziʒɛʒɬɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛɬɛt || pɔɬtaβɛʒɬɛnt || xaʒɬəɾɛjɬɛt || xaʒɬəɾɛʒɬɛnt || pɛsɛʒɛʒɬɛt || pɛsɛʒɛʒɬɛsɛ || auziʒɛʒɬɛt || auziʒɛʒɬɛnt
|}

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Subjunctive Active Present
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒɬɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒɬɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒɬɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First person
| pɔɬtʃa || pɔɬtem || xaʒɬʒaɾaː || xaʒɬʒaɾam || pɛsa || pɛsam || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second person
| pɔʎte || pɔɬtɛsɛ || xaʒɬʒaɾaː || xaʒɬʒaɾasɛ || pɛsa || pɛsasɛ || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third person
| pɔɬtet || pɔɬtʃant || xaʒɬʒaɾat || xaʒɬʒaɾant || pɛsat || pɛsant || auzɛɾat || auzɛɾant
|}
[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-26T00:24:05Z

Kicgan Vekei:

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#
* ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
* ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
* ʌ > ɔ

===Stage 12===
* back vowel > front vowel / #_
* (çl, lç) > ɬ
* tj, dj > ʧ, ʤ
* ɾj > l
* ja > ɛ

===Stage 13===
* ʧ ʤ > ʃ ʒ
* ʃ > x / #_
* j, jj > ʒ

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::Makes sense. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

The phonology should solidify sometime within the next few rounds, so that we can get a good idea of what the grammar is becoming.

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pəɛʒla ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pəɛʒla || pəɛʒlʒa
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pəɛʒlʒa || pəɛʒlaɬ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kamp ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kamp || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampəʒl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ɬɛk, ɬɛvɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɬɛk || ɬɛvɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ɬɛvɛ || ɬɛv

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maʒl ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| maʒl || maʒli
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| maʒli || man
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ɬɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɬɛ || ɬɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ɬʒai || ɬɛʒl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nə'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βə'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nə || ti || βə
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mʒai || nɛsʈ || təi || βesʈ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nəʒi || tɛʒɛ || βəʒi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nə || tɛ || βə
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, əi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛʒɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pja'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pɛd'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pa || pɛd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| xijl || xijl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəʒa || kəʒa
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɛd
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, ɛk, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛk || i || ɛk || ɛ || ɛk || ɛk || ɛʒlɛ || ɛʒli || ɛʒla || eʒlɛ || ɛʒləd || ɛʒla
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əʒl || əʒl || əʒl || ɒjl || əʒl || əʒl || ɛʒli || ɛʒləʒl || ɛjli || eʒlaʒl || ɛʒli || ɛʒləʒl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| əɛk || i || əɛk || i || əɛk || i || ɛʒli || ɛʒli || ɛʒli || ɛʒli || ɛʒli || ɛʒli
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ənk || ə || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || ɛk || ɛʒl || ɛʒl || ɛʒla || ɒʒla || ɒʒləd || ɛʒla
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pɛɛ, pəd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pɛ || pɛ || pəd || pɛ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ʃiʒl || pəʒl || ʃiʒl || paʒl || ʃiʒl || pəʒl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəɛ || pi || kəɛ || pi || kəɛ || pi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pə || pan || pa || pod || pɛ
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒlɛʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒlɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬt || pɔɬtam || xaʒlɛɾ || xaʒlɛm || pɛs || pɛsim || auzɛɾ || auzim
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬta || pɔɬtasɛ || xaʒlɛ || xaʒlɛsɛ || pɛsɛ || pɛsɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtat || pɔɬtant || xaʒlɛt || xaʒlɛnt || pɛsɛt || pɛsint || auzɛt || auzɛənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| xaçlɛʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒlɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaħa || pɔɬtaβam || xaʒlɛħa || xajʒɛβam || pɛsɛħa || pɛsɛβam || auzɛɛħa || auzɛɛβam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaħa || pɔɬtaβasɛ || xaʒlɛħa || xaʒlɛβasɛ || pɛsɛħa || pɛsɛβasɛ || auzɛɛħa || auzɛɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaħat || pɔɬtaħant || xaʒlɛħat || xaʒlɛħant || pɛsɛħat || pɛsɛħant || auzɛɛħat || auzɛɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒləɾɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaʒi || pɔɬtaʒɛm || xaʒləɾi || xaʒləɾim || pɛsiʒi || pɛsiʒimɛ || auziʒi || auziʒɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaβɛsti || pɔɬtaβɛstɛ || xaʒləɾɛsti || xaʒləɾɛstɛ || pɛsiβɛsti || pɛsiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaut || pɔɬtaβɛʒlənt || xaʒləɾɛt || xaʒləɾɛjlənt || pɛsiʒɛt || pɛsiβɛʒlənt || auziʒɛt || auziβɛɬənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| xajləɾɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒla || pɔɬtaʒɛʒlam || xaʒləɾɛʒla || xaʒləɾɛʒlam || pɛsiʒɛʒla || pɛsiʒɛʒlam || auziʒɛʒla || auziʒɛʒlam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒla || pɔɬtaʒɛʒlasɛ || xaʒləɾɛʒla || xaʒləɾɛʒlasɛ || pɛsiʒɛʒla || pɛsiʒɛʒlasɛ || auziʒɛʒla || auziʒɛʒlasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒlat || pɔɬtaʒɛʒlant || xaʒləɾɛʒlat || xaʒləɾɛʒlant || pɛsiʒɛʒlat || pɛsiʒɛʒlant || auziʒɛʒlat || auziʒɛʒlant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| xajlɛʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒlɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaɾ || pɔɬtaɾɛm || xaʒlɛɾ || xaʒlɛɾɛm || pɛsa || pɛsɛm || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaɾɛ || pɔɬtaɾɛsɛ || xaʒlɛɾɛ || xaʒlɛɾɛsɛ || pɛsɛ || pɛsɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaɾɛt || pɔɬtaɾənt || xaʒlɛɾɛt || xaʒlɛɾənt || pɛsʒat || pɛsʒant || auzɛɾɛt || auzɛɾɛnt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| xaʒlɛʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛsɛʒlɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʒlɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒl || pɔɬtaβɛʒlɛm || xaʒləɾɛjl || xaʒləɾɛʒlɛm || pɛsɛʒɛʒl || pɛʒsɛʒɛʒlɛm || auziʒɛʒlə || auziʒɛʒlɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʒlɛ || pɔɬtaβɛʒlɛsɛ || xaʒləɾɛjlɛ || xaʒləɾɛʒlɛsɛ || pɛsɛʒɛʒlɛ || pɛsɛʒɛʒlɛsɛ || auziʒɛʒlɛ || auziʒɛʒlɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaʒɛʎɛt || pɔɬtaβɛʒlɛnt || xaʒləɾɛjlɛt || xaʒləɾɛʒlɛnt || pɛsɛʒɛʒlɛt || pɛsɛʒɛʒlɛsɛ || auziʒɛʒlɛt || auziʒɛʒlɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-25T11:15:16Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 13 */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#
* ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
* ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
* ʌ > ɔ

===Stage 12===
* back vowel > front vowel / #_
* (çl, lç) > ɬ
* tj, dj > ʧ, ʤ
* ɾj > l
* ja > ɛ

===Stage 13===
* ʧ ʤ > ʃ ʒ
* ʃ > x / #_

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::Makes sense. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pəjajla ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pəjajla || pəjajlja
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pəjajlja || pəjajlaʎ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kamp ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kamp || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampəjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ɬjak, ɬjavɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɬjak || ɬjavɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ɬjavɛ || ɬjav

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''majl ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| majl || majli
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| majli || man
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ɬɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɬɛ || ɬɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ɬjai || ɬɛjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nə'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βə'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nə || ti || βə
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mjai || nɛsʈ || təi || βesʈ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nəji || tɛjɛ || βəji
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nə || tɛ || βə
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, əi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛjɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pja'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pjad'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pa || pjad
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || tʃijl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja || kəja
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pjad
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, jak, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛk || i || jak || ja || ɛk || jak || ɛjlɛ || ɛjli || ɛjla || ejlja || ɛjləd || ɛjla
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əjl || əjl || əjl || ɒjl || əjl || əjl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl || ɛjli || ejlajl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| əɛk || i || əɛk || i || əɛk || i || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ənk || ə || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || jak || ɛjl || ɛjl || ɛjla || ɒjla || ɒjləd || ɛjla
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pjaæ, pəd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pja || pja || pəd || pja
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || pəjl || tʃijl || pajl || tʃijl || pəjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja|| pi || kəja || pi || kəja || pi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pə || pan || pa || pod || pja
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtajlja
!colspan="2"| ʧajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬt || pɔɬtam || ʧajljaɾ || ʧajlɛm || pjas || pjasim || auzɛɾ || auzim
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬta || pɔɬtasɛ || ʧajlɛ || ʧajlɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtat || pɔɬtant || ʧajljat || ʧajljant || pjasɛt || pjasint || auzɛt || auzjaənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtajlja
!colspan="2"| ʧaçlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaħa || pɔɬtaβam || ʧajlɛħa || ʧajlɛβam || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβam || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaħa || pɔɬtaβasɛ || ʧajlɛħa || ʧajlɛβasɛ || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβasɛ || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaħat || pɔɬtaħant || ʧajlɛħat || ʧajlɛħant || pjasɛħat || pjasɛħant || auzjaɛħat || auzjaɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| ʧajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaji || pɔɬtajɛm || ʧajləɾi || ʧajləɾim || pjasiji || pjasijimja || auziji || auzijɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaβɛsti || pɔɬtaβɛstɛ || ʧajləɾɛsti || ʧajləɾɛstɛ || pjasiβɛsti || pjasiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaut || pɔɬtaβɛjlənt || ʧajləɾɛt || ʧajləɾɛjlənt || pjasijɛt || pjasiβɛjlənt || auzijɛt || auziβɛʎənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| ʧajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtajjajla || pɔɬtajjajlam || ʧajləɾjajla || ʧajləɾjajlam || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlam || auzijjajla || auzijjajlam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtajjajla || pɔɬtajjajlasɛ || ʧajləɾjajla || ʧajləɾjajlasɛ || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlasɛ || auzijjajla || auzijjajlasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtajjajlat || pɔɬtajjajlant || ʧajləɾjajlat || ʧajləɾjajlant || pjasijjajlat || pjasijjajlant || auzijjajlat || auzijjajlant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtajlja
!colspan="2"| ʧajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaɾ || pɔɬtaɾɛm || ʧajlɛɾ || ʧajlɛɾɛm || pjasa || pjasɛm || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaɾɛ || pɔɬtaɾɛsɛ || ʧajlɛɾɛ || ʧajlɛɾɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaɾɛt || pɔɬtaɾənt || ʧajlɛɾɛt || ʧajlɛɾənt || pjasjat || pjasjant || auzɛɾjat || auzɛɾjant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtajlja
!colspan="2"| ʧajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtajjajl || pɔɬtaβjajlɛm || ʧajləɾjajl || ʧajləɾjajlɛm || pjasɛjjajlə || pjajlsɛjjajlɛm || auzijjajlə || auzijjajlɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtajjajlɛ || pɔɬtaβjajlɛsɛ || ʧajləɾjajlɛ || ʧajləɾjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛ || auzijjajlɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtajæʎɛt || pɔɬtaβjajlɛnt || ʧajləɾjajlɛt || ʧajləɾjajlɛnt || pjasɛjjajlɛt || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛt || auzijjajlɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-21T04:22:13Z

Kicgan Vekei:

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is Kelvin Jackson's turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#
* ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
* ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
* ʌ > ɔ

===Stage 12===
* back vowel > front vowel / #_
* (çl, lç) > ɬ

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::Makes sense. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pəjajla ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pəjajla || pəjajlja
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pəjajlja || pəjajlaʎ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kamp ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kamp || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampəjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ɬjak, ɬjavɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɬjak || ɬjavɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ɬjavɛ || ɬjav

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''majl ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| majl || majli
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| majli || man
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ɬɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɬɛ || ɬɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ɬjai || ɬɛjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nə'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βə'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nə || ti || βə
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mjai || nɛsʈ || təi || βesʈ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nəji || tɛjɛ || βəji
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nə || tɛ || βə
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, əi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛjɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pja'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pjad'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pa || pjad
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || tʃijl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja || kəja
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pjad
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, jak, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛk || i || jak || ja || ɛk || jak || ɛjlɛ || ɛjli || ɛjla || ejlja || ɛjləd || ɛjla
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əjl || əjl || əjl || ɒjl || əjl || əjl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl || ɛjli || ejlajl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| əɛk || i || əɛk || i || əɛk || i || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ənk || ə || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || jak || ɛjl || ɛjl || ɛjla || ɒjla || ɒjləd || ɛjla
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pjaæ, pəd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pja || pja || pəd || pja
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || pəjl || tʃijl || pajl || tʃijl || pəjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja|| pi || kəja || pi || kəja || pi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pə || pan || pa || pod || pja
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬt || pɔɬtam || tjajljaɾ || tjajlɛm || pjas || pjasim || auzɛɾ || auzim
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬta || pɔɬtasɛ || tjajlɛ || tjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtat || pɔɬtant || tjajljat || tjajljant || pjasɛt || pjasint || auzɛt || auzjaənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjaçlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaħa || pɔɬtaβam || tjajlɛħa || tjajlɛβam || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβam || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaħa || pɔɬtaβasɛ || tjajlɛħa || tjajlɛβasɛ || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβasɛ || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaħat || pɔɬtaħant || tjajlɛħat || tjajlɛħant || pjasɛħat || pjasɛħant || auzjaɛħat || auzjaɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaji || pɔɬtajɛm || tjajləɾi || tjajləɾim || pjasiji || pjasijimja || auziji || auzijɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaβɛsti || pɔɬtaβɛstɛ || tjajləɾɛsti || tjajləɾɛstɛ || pjasiβɛsti || pjasiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaut || pɔɬtaβɛjlənt || tjajləɾɛt || tjajləɾɛjlənt || pjasijɛt || pjasiβɛjlənt || auzijɛt || auziβɛʎənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtajjajla || pɔɬtajjajlam || tjajləɾjajla || tjajləɾjajlam || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlam || auzijjajla || auzijjajlam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtajjajla || pɔɬtajjajlasɛ || tjajləɾjajla || tjajləɾjajlasɛ || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlasɛ || auzijjajla || auzijjajlasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtajjajlat || pɔɬtajjajlant || tjajləɾjajlat || tjajləɾjajlant || pjasijjajlat || pjasijjajlant || auzijjajlat || auzijjajlant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtaɾ || pɔɬtaɾɛm || tjajlɛɾ || tjajlɛɾɛm || pjasa || pjasɛm || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtaɾɛ || pɔɬtaɾɛsɛ || tjajlɛɾɛ || tjajlɛɾɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtaɾɛt || pɔɬtaɾənt || tjajlɛɾɛt || tjajlɛɾənt || pjasjat || pjasjant || auzɛɾjat || auzɛɾjant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɔɬtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɔɬtajjajl || pɔɬtaβjajlɛm || tjajləɾjajl || tjajləɾjajlɛm || pjasɛjjajlə || pjajlsɛjjajlɛm || auzijjajlə || auzijjajlɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɔɬtajjajlɛ || pɔɬtaβjajlɛsɛ || tjajləɾjajlɛ || tjajləɾjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛ || auzijjajlɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɔɬtajæʎɛt || pɔɬtaβjajlɛnt || tjajləɾjajlɛt || tjajləɾjajlɛnt || pjasɛjjajlɛt || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛt || auzijjajlɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-21T04:18:28Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 12 */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#
* ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
* ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
* ʌ > ɔ

===Stage 12===
* back vowel > front vowel / #_
* (çl, lç) > ɬ

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::Makes sense. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pəjajla ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pəjajla || pəjajlja
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pəjajlja || pəjajlaʎ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kamp ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kamp || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampəjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''çljak, çljavɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| çljak || çljavɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| çljavɛ || çljav

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''majl ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| majl || majli
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| majli || man
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''çlɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| çlɛ || çlɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| çljai || çlɛjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nə'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βə'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nə || ti || βə
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mjai || nɛsʈ || təi || βesʈ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nəji || tɛjɛ || βəji
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nə || tɛ || βə
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, əi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛjɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pja'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pjad'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pa || pjad
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || tʃijl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja || kəja
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pjad
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, jak, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛk || i || jak || ja || ɛk || jak || ɛjlɛ || ɛjli || ɛjla || ejlja || ɛjləd || ɛjla
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əjl || əjl || əjl || ɒjl || əjl || əjl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl || ɛjli || ejlajl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| əɛk || i || əɛk || i || əɛk || i || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ənk || ə || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || jak || ɛjl || ɛjl || ɛjla || ɒjla || ɒjləd || ɛjla
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pjaæ, pəd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pja || pja || pəd || pja
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || pəjl || tʃijl || pajl || tʃijl || pəjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja|| pi || kəja || pi || kəja || pi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pə || pan || pa || pod || pja
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎt || pʌʎtam || tjajljaɾ || tjajlɛm || pjas || pjasim || auzɛɾ || auzim
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎta || pʌʎtasɛ || tjajlɛ || tjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtat || pʌʎtant || tjajljat || tjajljant || pjasɛt || pjasint || auzɛt || auzjaənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjaçlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβam || tjajlɛħa || tjajlɛβam || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβam || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβasɛ || tjajlɛħa || tjajlɛβasɛ || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβasɛ || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaħat || pʌʎtaħant || tjajlɛħat || tjajlɛħant || pjasɛħat || pjasɛħant || auzjaɛħat || auzjaɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaji || pʌʎtajɛm || tjajləɾi || tjajləɾim || pjasiji || pjasijimja || auziji || auzijɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaβɛsti || pʌʎtaβɛstɛ || tjajləɾɛsti || tjajləɾɛstɛ || pjasiβɛsti || pjasiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaut || pʌʎtaβɛjlənt || tjajləɾɛt || tjajləɾɛjlənt || pjasijɛt || pjasiβɛjlənt || auzijɛt || auziβɛʎənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtajjajla || pʌʎtajjajlam || tjajləɾjajla || tjajləɾjajlam || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlam || auzijjajla || auzijjajlam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtajjajla || pʌʎtajjajlasɛ || tjajləɾjajla || tjajləɾjajlasɛ || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlasɛ || auzijjajla || auzijjajlasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtajjajlat || pʌʎtajjajlant || tjajləɾjajlat || tjajləɾjajlant || pjasijjajlat || pjasijjajlant || auzijjajlat || auzijjajlant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaɾ || pʌʎtaɾɛm || tjajlɛɾ || tjajlɛɾɛm || pjasa || pjasɛm || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛ || pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ || tjajlɛɾɛ || tjajlɛɾɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛt || pʌʎtaɾənt || tjajlɛɾɛt || tjajlɛɾənt || pjasjat || pjasjant || auzɛɾjat || auzɛɾjant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtajjajl || pʌʎtaβjajlɛm || tjajləɾjajl || tjajləɾjajlɛm || pjasɛjjajlə || pjajlsɛjjajlɛm || auzijjajlə || auzijjajlɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtajjajlɛ || pʌʎtaβjajlɛsɛ || tjajləɾjajlɛ || tjajləɾjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛ || auzijjajlɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtajæʎɛt || pʌʎtaβjajlɛnt || tjajləɾjajlɛt || tjajləɾjajlɛnt || pjasɛjjajlɛt || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛt || auzijjajlɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-21T04:17:08Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 12 */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#
* ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
* ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
* ʌ > ɔ

===Stage 12===
* back vowel > front vowel / #_
* lç > ɬ

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::Makes sense. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pəjajla ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pəjajla || pəjajlja
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pəjajlja || pəjajlaʎ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kamp ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kamp || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampəjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''çljak, çljavɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| çljak || çljavɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| çljavɛ || çljav

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''majl ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| majl || majli
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| majli || man
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''çlɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| çlɛ || çlɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| çljai || çlɛjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nə'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βə'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nə || ti || βə
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mjai || nɛsʈ || təi || βesʈ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nəji || tɛjɛ || βəji
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nə || tɛ || βə
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, əi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛjɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pja'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pjad'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pa || pjad
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || tʃijl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja || kəja
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pjad
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, jak, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛk || i || jak || ja || ɛk || jak || ɛjlɛ || ɛjli || ɛjla || ejlja || ɛjləd || ɛjla
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əjl || əjl || əjl || ɒjl || əjl || əjl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl || ɛjli || ejlajl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| əɛk || i || əɛk || i || əɛk || i || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ənk || ə || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || jak || ɛjl || ɛjl || ɛjla || ɒjla || ɒjləd || ɛjla
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pjaæ, pəd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pja || pja || pəd || pja
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || pəjl || tʃijl || pajl || tʃijl || pəjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja|| pi || kəja || pi || kəja || pi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pə || pan || pa || pod || pja
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎt || pʌʎtam || tjajljaɾ || tjajlɛm || pjas || pjasim || auzɛɾ || auzim
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎta || pʌʎtasɛ || tjajlɛ || tjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtat || pʌʎtant || tjajljat || tjajljant || pjasɛt || pjasint || auzɛt || auzjaənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjaçlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβam || tjajlɛħa || tjajlɛβam || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβam || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβasɛ || tjajlɛħa || tjajlɛβasɛ || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβasɛ || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaħat || pʌʎtaħant || tjajlɛħat || tjajlɛħant || pjasɛħat || pjasɛħant || auzjaɛħat || auzjaɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaji || pʌʎtajɛm || tjajləɾi || tjajləɾim || pjasiji || pjasijimja || auziji || auzijɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaβɛsti || pʌʎtaβɛstɛ || tjajləɾɛsti || tjajləɾɛstɛ || pjasiβɛsti || pjasiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaut || pʌʎtaβɛjlənt || tjajləɾɛt || tjajləɾɛjlənt || pjasijɛt || pjasiβɛjlənt || auzijɛt || auziβɛʎənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtajjajla || pʌʎtajjajlam || tjajləɾjajla || tjajləɾjajlam || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlam || auzijjajla || auzijjajlam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtajjajla || pʌʎtajjajlasɛ || tjajləɾjajla || tjajləɾjajlasɛ || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlasɛ || auzijjajla || auzijjajlasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtajjajlat || pʌʎtajjajlant || tjajləɾjajlat || tjajləɾjajlant || pjasijjajlat || pjasijjajlant || auzijjajlat || auzijjajlant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaɾ || pʌʎtaɾɛm || tjajlɛɾ || tjajlɛɾɛm || pjasa || pjasɛm || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛ || pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ || tjajlɛɾɛ || tjajlɛɾɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛt || pʌʎtaɾənt || tjajlɛɾɛt || tjajlɛɾənt || pjasjat || pjasjant || auzɛɾjat || auzɛɾjant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtajjajl || pʌʎtaβjajlɛm || tjajləɾjajl || tjajləɾjajlɛm || pjasɛjjajlə || pjajlsɛjjajlɛm || auzijjajlə || auzijjajlɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtajjajlɛ || pʌʎtaβjajlɛsɛ || tjajləɾjajlɛ || tjajləɾjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛ || auzijjajlɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtajæʎɛt || pʌʎtaβjajlɛnt || tjajləɾjajlɛt || tjajləɾjajlɛnt || pjasɛjjajlɛt || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛt || auzijjajlɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-21T04:16:09Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 12 */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#
* ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
* ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
* ʌ > ɔ

===Stage 12===
* back vowel > front vowel / #_
* ħ becomes the ending for all imperfects

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::Makes sense. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pəjajla ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pəjajla || pəjajlja
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pəjajlja || pəjajlaʎ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kamp ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kamp || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampəjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''çljak, çljavɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| çljak || çljavɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| çljavɛ || çljav

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''majl ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| majl || majli
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| majli || man
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''çlɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| çlɛ || çlɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| çljai || çlɛjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nə'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βə'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nə || ti || βə
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mjai || nɛsʈ || təi || βesʈ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nəji || tɛjɛ || βəji
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nə || tɛ || βə
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, əi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛjɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pja'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pjad'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pa || pjad
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || tʃijl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja || kəja
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pjad
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, jak, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛk || i || jak || ja || ɛk || jak || ɛjlɛ || ɛjli || ɛjla || ejlja || ɛjləd || ɛjla
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əjl || əjl || əjl || ɒjl || əjl || əjl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl || ɛjli || ejlajl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| əɛk || i || əɛk || i || əɛk || i || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ənk || ə || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || jak || ɛjl || ɛjl || ɛjla || ɒjla || ɒjləd || ɛjla
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pjaæ, pəd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pja || pja || pəd || pja
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || pəjl || tʃijl || pajl || tʃijl || pəjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja|| pi || kəja || pi || kəja || pi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pə || pan || pa || pod || pja
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎt || pʌʎtam || tjajljaɾ || tjajlɛm || pjas || pjasim || auzɛɾ || auzim
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎta || pʌʎtasɛ || tjajlɛ || tjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtat || pʌʎtant || tjajljat || tjajljant || pjasɛt || pjasint || auzɛt || auzjaənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjaçlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβam || tjajlɛħa || tjajlɛβam || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβam || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβasɛ || tjajlɛħa || tjajlɛβasɛ || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβasɛ || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaħat || pʌʎtaħant || tjajlɛħat || tjajlɛħant || pjasɛħat || pjasɛħant || auzjaɛħat || auzjaɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaji || pʌʎtajɛm || tjajləɾi || tjajləɾim || pjasiji || pjasijimja || auziji || auzijɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaβɛsti || pʌʎtaβɛstɛ || tjajləɾɛsti || tjajləɾɛstɛ || pjasiβɛsti || pjasiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaut || pʌʎtaβɛjlənt || tjajləɾɛt || tjajləɾɛjlənt || pjasijɛt || pjasiβɛjlənt || auzijɛt || auziβɛʎənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtajjajla || pʌʎtajjajlam || tjajləɾjajla || tjajləɾjajlam || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlam || auzijjajla || auzijjajlam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtajjajla || pʌʎtajjajlasɛ || tjajləɾjajla || tjajləɾjajlasɛ || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlasɛ || auzijjajla || auzijjajlasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtajjajlat || pʌʎtajjajlant || tjajləɾjajlat || tjajləɾjajlant || pjasijjajlat || pjasijjajlant || auzijjajlat || auzijjajlant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaɾ || pʌʎtaɾɛm || tjajlɛɾ || tjajlɛɾɛm || pjasa || pjasɛm || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛ || pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ || tjajlɛɾɛ || tjajlɛɾɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛt || pʌʎtaɾənt || tjajlɛɾɛt || tjajlɛɾənt || pjasjat || pjasjant || auzɛɾjat || auzɛɾjant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtajjajl || pʌʎtaβjajlɛm || tjajləɾjajl || tjajləɾjajlɛm || pjasɛjjajlə || pjajlsɛjjajlɛm || auzijjajlə || auzijjajlɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtajjajlɛ || pʌʎtaβjajlɛsɛ || tjajləɾjajlɛ || tjajləɾjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛ || auzijjajlɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtajæʎɛt || pʌʎtaβjajlɛnt || tjajləɾjajlɛt || tjajləɾjajlɛnt || pjasɛjjajlɛt || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛt || auzijjajlɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-21T03:06:50Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 12 */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#
* ç > j / V_[voiced consonant, V}
* ʎ̥˔ > lç > V_
* ʌ > ɔ

===Stage 12===
* back vowel > front vowel / #_
* (çl, lç) > ɬ

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)
::Makes sense. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 19:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pəjajla ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pəjajla || pəjajlja
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pəjajlja || pəjajlaʎ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kamp ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kamp || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampəjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''çljak, çljavɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| çljak || çljavɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| çljavɛ || çljav

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''majl ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| majl || majli
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| majli || man
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''çlɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| çlɛ || çlɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| çljai || çlɛjl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nə'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βə'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nə || ti || βə
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mjai || nɛsʈ || təi || βesʈ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nəji || tɛjɛ || βəji
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nə || tɛ || βə
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, əi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛjɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pja'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pjad'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pa || pjad
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || tʃijl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja || kəja
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pjad
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, jak, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛjlɛ, ɛjla, ɛjləd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛk || i || jak || ja || ɛk || jak || ɛjlɛ || ɛjli || ɛjla || ejlja || ɛjləd || ɛjla
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əjl || əjl || əjl || ɒjl || əjl || əjl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl || ɛjli || ejlajl || ɛjli || ɛjləjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| əɛk || i || əɛk || i || əɛk || i || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli || ɛjli
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ənk || ə || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || jak || ɛjl || ɛjl || ɛjla || ɒjla || ɒjləd || ɛjla
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pjaæ, pəd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pja || pja || pəd || pja
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃijl || pəjl || tʃijl || pajl || tʃijl || pəjl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja|| pi || kəja || pi || kəja || pi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pə || pan || pa || pod || pja
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎt || pʌʎtam || tjajljaɾ || tjajlɛm || pjas || pjasim || auzɛɾ || auzim
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎta || pʌʎtasɛ || tjajlɛ || tjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtat || pʌʎtant || tjajljat || tjajljant || pjasɛt || pjasint || auzɛt || auzjaənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjaçlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβam || tjajlɛħa || tjajlɛβam || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβam || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβasɛ || tjajlɛħa || tjajlɛβasɛ || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβasɛ || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaħat || pʌʎtaħant || tjajlɛħat || tjajlɛħant || pjasɛħat || pjasɛħant || auzjaɛħat || auzjaɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaji || pʌʎtajɛm || tjajləɾi || tjajləɾim || pjasiji || pjasijimja || auziji || auzijɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaβɛsti || pʌʎtaβɛstɛ || tjajləɾɛsti || tjajləɾɛstɛ || pjasiβɛsti || pjasiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaut || pʌʎtaβɛjlənt || tjajləɾɛt || tjajləɾɛjlənt || pjasijɛt || pjasiβɛjlənt || auzijɛt || auziβɛʎənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjajləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtajjajla || pʌʎtajjajlam || tjajləɾjajla || tjajləɾjajlam || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlam || auzijjajla || auzijjajlam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtajjajla || pʌʎtajjajlasɛ || tjajləɾjajla || tjajləɾjajlasɛ || pjasijjajla || pjasijjajlasɛ || auzijjajla || auzijjajlasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtajjajlat || pʌʎtajjajlant || tjajləɾjajlat || tjajləɾjajlant || pjasijjajlat || pjasijjajlant || auzijjajlat || auzijjajlant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaɾ || pʌʎtaɾɛm || tjajlɛɾ || tjajlɛɾɛm || pjasa || pjasɛm || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛ || pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ || tjajlɛɾɛ || tjajlɛɾɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛt || pʌʎtaɾənt || tjajlɛɾɛt || tjajlɛɾənt || pjasjat || pjasjant || auzɛɾjat || auzɛɾjant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtajlja
!colspan="2"| tjajlɛjlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛjlja
!colspan="2"| auzijlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtajjajl || pʌʎtaβjajlɛm || tjajləɾjajl || tjajləɾjajlɛm || pjasɛjjajlə || pjajlsɛjjajlɛm || auzijjajlə || auzijjajlɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtajjajlɛ || pʌʎtaβjajlɛsɛ || tjajləɾjajlɛ || tjajləɾjajlɛsɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛ || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛ || auzijjajlɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtajæʎɛt || pʌʎtaβjajlɛnt || tjajləɾjajlɛt || tjajləɾjajlɛnt || pjasɛjjajlɛt || pjasɛjjajlɛsɛ || auzijjajlɛt || auzijjajlɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-17T19:07:49Z

Kicgan Vekei:

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is Kelvin Jackson's turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pəjaçla ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pəjaçla || pəjaçlja
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pəjaçlja || pəjaçlaʎ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kamp ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kamp || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampəçl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''çljak, çljavɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| çljak || çljavɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| çljavɛ || çljav

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maçl ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| maçl || maçli
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| maçli || man
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''çlɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| çlɛ || çlɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| çljai || çlɛçl
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nə'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βə'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nə || ti || βə
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mjai || nɛsʈ || təi || βesʈ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nəçi || tɛçɛ || βəçi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nə || tɛ || βə
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, əi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛçɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pja'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pjad'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pa || pjad
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃiçl || tʃiçl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja || kəja
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pjad
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, jak, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛçlɛ, ɛçla, ɛçləd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛk || i || jak || ja || ɛk || jak || ɛçlɛ || ɛçli || ɛçla || eçlja || ɛçləd || ɛçla
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| əçl || əçl || əçl || ɒçl || əçl || əçl || ɛçli || ɛçləçl || ɛçli || eçlaçl || ɛçli || ɛçləçl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| əɛk || i || əɛk || i || əɛk || i || ɛçli || ɛçli || ɛçli || ɛçli || ɛçli || ɛçli
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ənk || ə || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || jak || ɛçl || ɛçl || ɛçla || ɒçla || ɒçləd || ɛçla
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pjaæ, pəd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pja || pja || pəd || pja
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| tʃiçl || pəçl || tʃiçl || paçl || tʃiçl || pəçl
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kəja|| pi || kəja || pi || kəja || pi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pə || pan || pa || pod || pja
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaçlja
!colspan="2"| tjaçlɛçlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛçlja
!colspan="2"| auziçlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎt || pʌʎtam || tjaçljaɾ || tjaçlɛm || pjas || pjasim || auzɛɾ || auzim
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎta || pʌʎtasɛ || tjaçlɛ || tjaçlɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtat || pʌʎtant || tjaçljat || tjaçljant || pjasɛt || pjasint || auzɛt || auzjaənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaçlja
!colspan="2"| tjaçlɛçlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛçlja
!colspan="2"| auziçlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβam || tjaçlɛħa || tjaçlɛβam || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβam || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβasɛ || tjaçlɛħa || tjaçlɛβasɛ || pjasɛħa || pjasɛβasɛ || auzjaɛħa || auzjaɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaħat || pʌʎtaħant || tjaçlɛħat || tjaçlɛħant || pjasɛħat || pjasɛħant || auzjaɛħat || auzjaɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjaçləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçi || pʌʎtaçɛm || tjaçləɾi || tjaçləɾim || pjasiçi || pjasiçimja || auziçi || auziçɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaβɛsti || pʌʎtaβɛstɛ || tjaçləɾɛsti || tjaçləɾɛstɛ || pjasiβɛsti || pjasiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaut || pʌʎtaβɛçlənt || tjaçləɾɛt || tjaçləɾɛçlənt || pjasiçɛt || pjasiβɛçlənt || auziçɛt || auziβɛʎənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsja
!colspan="2"| tjaçləɾɛsja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛβɛsja
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçjaçla || pʌʎtaçjaçlam || tjaçləɾjaçla || tjaçləɾjaçlam || pjasiçjaçla || pjasiçjaçlam || auziçjaçla || auziçjaçlam
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaçjaçla || pʌʎtaçjaçlasɛ || tjaçləɾjaçla || tjaçləɾjaçlasɛ || pjasiçjaçla || pjasiçjaçlasɛ || auziçjaçla || auziçjaçlasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaçjaçlat || pʌʎtaçjaçlant || tjaçləɾjaçlat || tjaçləɾjaçlant || pjasiçjaçlat || pjasiçjaçlant || auziçjaçlat || auziçjaçlant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaçlja
!colspan="2"| tjaçlɛçlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛçlja
!colspan="2"| auziçlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaɾ || pʌʎtaɾɛm || tjaçlɛɾ || tjaçlɛɾɛm || pjasa || pjasɛm || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛ || pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ || tjaçlɛɾɛ || tjaçlɛɾɛsɛ || pjasɛ || pjasɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛt || pʌʎtaɾənt || tjaçlɛɾɛt || tjaçlɛɾənt || pjasjat || pjasjant || auzɛɾjat || auzɛɾjant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaçlja
!colspan="2"| tjaçlɛçlja
!colspan="2"| pjasɛçlja
!colspan="2"| auziçlja
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçjaçl || pʌʎtaβjaçlɛm || tjaçləɾjaçl || tjaçləɾjaçlɛm || pjasɛçjaçlə || pjaçlsɛçjaçlɛm || auziçjaçlə || auziçjaçlɛm
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaçjaçlɛ || pʌʎtaβjaçlɛsɛ || tjaçləɾjaçlɛ || tjaçləɾjaçlɛsɛ || pjasɛçjaçlɛ || pjasɛçjaçlɛsɛ || auziçjaçlɛ || auziçjaçlɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎɛt || pʌʎtaβjaçlɛnt || tjaçləɾjaçlɛt || tjaçləɾjaçlɛnt || pjasɛçjaçlɛt || pjasɛçjaçlɛsɛ || auziçjaçlɛt || auziçjaçlɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-17T18:46:57Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 11 */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_# unless monosyllabic

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pɨæʎa ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎæ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎaʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kampɨ ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampɨlɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎæk, ʎævɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎæk || ʎævɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɨ

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maro ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| marɨ || mari
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| mari || manɨ
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎɛ || ʎɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎæi || ʎɛʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nɨ'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βɨ'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nɨ || ti || βɨ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mæi || nɛsʈɨ || tɨi || βesʈɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nɨçi || tɛçɛ || βɨçi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nɨ || tɛ || βɨ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, ɨi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛçɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pæ'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pæd'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pæ || pæd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || kiʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || kɨæ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pæd
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, æk, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ek || i || æk || æ || ɛk || æk || ɛʎɛ || ɛʎi || ɛʎa || eʎæ || ɛʎɨd || ɛʎa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨʎɨ || ɨlɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɒʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎaʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ɨnk || ɨ || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || æk || eʎɨ || eʎɨ || eʎa || ɒʎa || ɒʎɨd || eʎa
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pæ, pɨd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pæ || pæ || pɨd || pæ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ || kiʎɨ || paʎɨ || kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɨ || pan || pa || pod || pæ
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎæ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| auziʎæ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtə || pʌʎtamə || tæʎæɾə || tæʎɛmə || pæsə || pæsimə || auzɛɾə || auzimɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎta || pʌʎtasɛ || tæʎɛ || tæʎɛsɛ || pæsɛ || pæsɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtat || pʌʎtant || tæʎæt || tæʎænt || pæsɛt || pæsint || auzɛt || auzæənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎæ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| auziʎæ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβamə || tæʎɛħa || tæʎɛβamə || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβamə || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβamə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβasɛ || tæʎɛħa || tæʎɛβasɛ || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβasɛ || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaħat || pʌʎtaħant || tæʎɛħat || tæʎɛħant || pæsɛħat || pæsɛħant || auzæɛħat || auzæɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsæ
!colspan="2"| teʎəɾɛsæ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsæ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsæ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçi || pʌʎtaçɛmə || tæʎəɾi || tæʎəɾimɨ || pæsiçi || pæsiçimə || auziçi || auziçɛmə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaβɛsti || pʌʎtaβɛstɛ || tæʎəɾɛsti || tæʎəɾɛstɛ || pæsiβɛsti || pæsiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaut || pʌʎtaβɛʎənt || tæʎəɾɛt || tæʎəɾɛʎənt || pæsiçɛt || pæsiβɛʎənt || auziçɛt || auziβɛʎənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| teʎəɾɛse
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎa || pʌʎtaçæʎamə || tæʎəɾæʎa || tæʎəɾæʎamə || pæsiçæʎa || pæsiçæʎamə || auziçæʎa || auziçæʎamə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎa || pʌʎtaçæʎasɛ || tæʎəɾæʎa || tæʎəɾæʎasɛ || pæsiçæʎa || pæsiçæʎasɛ || auziçæʎa || auziçæʎasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎat || pʌʎtaçæʎant || tæʎəɾæʎat || tæʎəɾæʎant || pæsiçæʎat || pæsiçæʎant || auziçæʎat || auziçæʎant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaɾə || pʌʎtaɾɛmə || tæʎɛɾə || tæʎɛɾɛmə || pæsa || pæsɛmə || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛmə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛ || pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ || tæʎɛɾɛ || tæʎɛɾɛsɛ || pæsɛ || pæsɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛt || pʌʎtaɾənt || tæʎɛɾɛt || tæʎɛɾənt || pæsæt || pæsænt || auzɛɾæt || auzɛɾænt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎə || pʌʎtaβæʎɛmə || tæʎəɾæʎə || tæʎəɾæʎɛmə || pæsɛçæʎə || pæsɛçæʎɛmə || auziçæʎə || auziçæʎɛmə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎɛ || pʌʎtaβæʎɛsɛ || tæʎəɾæʎɛ || tæʎəɾæʎɛsɛ || pæsɛçæʎɛ || pæsɛçæʎɛsɛ || auziçæʎɛ || auziçæʎɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎɛt || pʌʎtaβæʎɛnt || tæʎəɾæʎɛt || tæʎəɾæʎɛnt || pæsɛçæʎɛt || pæsɛçæʎɛsɛ || auziçæʎɛt || auziçæʎɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-17T18:39:18Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 11 */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ
* ɔ > o
* ʎ̥˔ > çl > _V
* ø > ɵ

===Stage 11===
* æ > ja
* ə > ∅ /_#

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pɨæʎa ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎæ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎaʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kampɨ ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampɨlɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎæk, ʎævɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎæk || ʎævɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɨ

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maro ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| marɨ || mari
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| mari || manɨ
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎɛ || ʎɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎæi || ʎɛʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nɨ'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βɨ'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nɨ || ti || βɨ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mæi || nɛsʈɨ || tɨi || βesʈɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nɨçi || tɛçɛ || βɨçi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nɨ || tɛ || βɨ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, ɨi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛçɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pæ'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pæd'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pæ || pæd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || kiʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || kɨæ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pæd
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, æk, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ek || i || æk || æ || ɛk || æk || ɛʎɛ || ɛʎi || ɛʎa || eʎæ || ɛʎɨd || ɛʎa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨʎɨ || ɨlɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɒʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎaʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ɨnk || ɨ || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || æk || eʎɨ || eʎɨ || eʎa || ɒʎa || ɒʎɨd || eʎa
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pæ, pɨd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pæ || pæ || pɨd || pæ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ || kiʎɨ || paʎɨ || kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɨ || pan || pa || pod || pæ
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎæ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| auziʎæ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtə || pʌʎtamə || tæʎæɾə || tæʎɛmə || pæsə || pæsimə || auzɛɾə || auzimɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎta || pʌʎtasɛ || tæʎɛ || tæʎɛsɛ || pæsɛ || pæsɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtat || pʌʎtant || tæʎæt || tæʎænt || pæsɛt || pæsint || auzɛt || auzæənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎæ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| auziʎæ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβamə || tæʎɛħa || tæʎɛβamə || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβamə || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβamə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβasɛ || tæʎɛħa || tæʎɛβasɛ || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβasɛ || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaħat || pʌʎtaħant || tæʎɛħat || tæʎɛħant || pæsɛħat || pæsɛħant || auzæɛħat || auzæɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsæ
!colspan="2"| teʎəɾɛsæ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsæ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsæ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçi || pʌʎtaçɛmə || tæʎəɾi || tæʎəɾimɨ || pæsiçi || pæsiçimə || auziçi || auziçɛmə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaβɛsti || pʌʎtaβɛstɛ || tæʎəɾɛsti || tæʎəɾɛstɛ || pæsiβɛsti || pæsiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaut || pʌʎtaβɛʎənt || tæʎəɾɛt || tæʎəɾɛʎənt || pæsiçɛt || pæsiβɛʎənt || auziçɛt || auziβɛʎənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| teʎəɾɛse
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎa || pʌʎtaçæʎamə || tæʎəɾæʎa || tæʎəɾæʎamə || pæsiçæʎa || pæsiçæʎamə || auziçæʎa || auziçæʎamə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎa || pʌʎtaçæʎasɛ || tæʎəɾæʎa || tæʎəɾæʎasɛ || pæsiçæʎa || pæsiçæʎasɛ || auziçæʎa || auziçæʎasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎat || pʌʎtaçæʎant || tæʎəɾæʎat || tæʎəɾæʎant || pæsiçæʎat || pæsiçæʎant || auziçæʎat || auziçæʎant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaɾə || pʌʎtaɾɛmə || tæʎɛɾə || tæʎɛɾɛmə || pæsa || pæsɛmə || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛmə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛ || pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ || tæʎɛɾɛ || tæʎɛɾɛsɛ || pæsɛ || pæsɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛt || pʌʎtaɾənt || tæʎɛɾɛt || tæʎɛɾənt || pæsæt || pæsænt || auzɛɾæt || auzɛɾænt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎə || pʌʎtaβæʎɛmə || tæʎəɾæʎə || tæʎəɾæʎɛmə || pæsɛçæʎə || pæsɛçæʎɛmə || auziçæʎə || auziçæʎɛmə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎɛ || pʌʎtaβæʎɛsɛ || tæʎəɾæʎɛ || tæʎəɾæʎɛsɛ || pæsɛçæʎɛ || pæsɛçæʎɛsɛ || auziçæʎɛ || auziçæʎɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎɛt || pʌʎtaβæʎɛnt || tæʎəɾæʎɛt || tæʎəɾæʎɛnt || pæsɛçæʎɛt || pæsɛçæʎɛsɛ || auziçæʎɛt || auziçæʎɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-15T16:48:56Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Conjugation */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pɨæʎa ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎæ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎaʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kampɨ ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampɨlɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎæk, ʎævɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎæk || ʎævɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɨ

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maro ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| marɨ || mari
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| mari || manɨ
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎɛ || ʎɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎæi || ʎɛʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nɨ'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βɨ'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nɨ || ti || βɨ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mæi || nɛsʈɨ || tɨi || βesʈɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nɨçi || tɛçɛ || βɨçi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nɨ || tɛ || βɨ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, ɨi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛçɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pæ'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pæd'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pæ || pæd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || kiʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || kɨæ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pæd
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, æk, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ek || i || æk || æ || ɛk || æk || ɛʎɛ || ɛʎi || ɛʎa || eʎæ || ɛʎɨd || ɛʎa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨʎɨ || ɨlɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɒʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎaʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ɨnk || ɨ || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || æk || eʎɨ || eʎɨ || eʎa || ɒʎa || ɒʎɨd || eʎa
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pæ, pɨd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pæ || pæ || pɨd || pæ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ || kiʎɨ || paʎɨ || kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɨ || pan || pa || pod || pæ
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎæ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| auziʎæ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtə || pʌʎtamə || tæʎæɾə || tæʎɛmə || pæsə || pæsimə || auzɛɾə || auzimɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎta || pʌʎtasɛ || tæʎɛ || tæʎɛsɛ || pæsɛ || pæsɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtat || pʌʎtant || tæʎæt || tæʎænt || pæsɛt || pæsint || auzɛt || auzæənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎæ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎæ
!colspan="2"| auziʎæ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβamə || tæʎɛħa || tæʎɛβamə || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβamə || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβamə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaħa || pʌʎtaβasɛ || tæʎɛħa || tæʎɛβasɛ || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβasɛ || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaħat || pʌʎtaħant || tæʎɛħat || tæʎɛħant || pæsɛħat || pæsɛħant || auzæɛħat || auzæɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsæ
!colspan="2"| teʎəɾɛsæ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsæ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsæ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçi || pʌʎtaçɛmə || tæʎəɾi || tæʎəɾimɨ || pæsiçi || pæsiçimə || auziçi || auziçɛmə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaβɛsti || pʌʎtaβɛstɛ || tæʎəɾɛsti || tæʎəɾɛstɛ || pæsiβɛsti || pæsiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaut || pʌʎtaβɛʎənt || tæʎəɾɛt || tæʎəɾɛʎənt || pæsiçɛt || pæsiβɛʎənt || auziçɛt || auziβɛʎənt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, pluperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| teʎəɾɛse
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎa || pʌʎtaçæʎamə || tæʎəɾæʎa || tæʎəɾæʎamə || pæsiçæʎa || pæsiçæʎamə || auziçæʎa || auziçæʎamə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎa || pʌʎtaçæʎasɛ || tæʎəɾæʎa || tæʎəɾæʎasɛ || pæsiçæʎa || pæsiçæʎasɛ || auziçæʎa || auziçæʎasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎat || pʌʎtaçæʎant || tæʎəɾæʎat || tæʎəɾæʎant || pæsiçæʎat || pæsiçæʎant || auziçæʎat || auziçæʎant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaɾə || pʌʎtaɾɛmə || tæʎɛɾə || tæʎɛɾɛmə || pæsa || pæsɛmə || auzɛɾa || auzɛɾɛmə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛ || pʌʎtaɾɛsɛ || tæʎɛɾɛ || tæʎɛɾɛsɛ || pæsɛ || pæsɛsɛ || auzɛɾɛ || auzɛɾɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaɾɛt || pʌʎtaɾənt || tæʎɛɾɛt || tæʎɛɾənt || pæsæt || pæsænt || auzɛɾæt || auzɛɾænt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, future perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pʌʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛsɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛsɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎə || pʌʎtaβæʎɛmə || tæʎəɾæʎə || tæʎəɾæʎɛmə || pæsɛçæʎə || pæsɛçæʎɛmə || auziçæʎə || auziçæʎɛmə
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎɛ || pʌʎtaβæʎɛsɛ || tæʎəɾæʎɛ || tæʎəɾæʎɛsɛ || pæsɛçæʎɛ || pæsɛçæʎɛsɛ || auziçæʎɛ || auziçæʎɛsɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pʌʎtaçæʎɛt || pʌʎtaβæʎɛnt || tæʎəɾæʎɛt || tæʎəɾæʎɛnt || pæsɛçæʎɛt || pæsɛçæʎɛsɛ || auziçæʎɛt || auziçæʎɛnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-15T16:00:09Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 10 */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɜ > ʌ

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pɨæʎa ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎæ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎaʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kampɨ ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampɨlɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎæk, ʎævɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎæk || ʎævɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɨ

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maro ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| marɨ || mari
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| mari || manɨ
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎɛ || ʎɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎæi || ʎɛʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nɨ'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βɨ'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nɨ || ti || βɨ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mæi || nɛsʈɨ || tɨi || βesʈɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nɨçi || tɛçɛ || βɨçi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nɨ || tɛ || βɨ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, ɨi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛçɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pæ'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pæd'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pæ || pæd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || kiʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || kɨæ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pæd
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, æk, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ek || i || æk || æ || ɛk || æk || ɛʎɛ || ɛʎi || ɛʎa || eʎæ || ɛʎɨd || ɛʎa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨʎɨ || ɨlɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɒʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎaʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ɨnk || ɨ || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || æk || eʎɨ || eʎɨ || eʎa || ɒʎa || ɒʎɨd || eʎa
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pæ, pɨd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pæ || pæ || pɨd || pæ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ || kiʎɨ || paʎɨ || kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɨ || pan || pa || pod || pæ
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɛʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʎɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɛʎtɨ || pɛʎtamɨ || tæʎʎæɨ || tæʎʎɛmɨ || pæsɨ || pæsimɨ || auzæɨ || auzimɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɛʎta || pɛʎtasɛ || tæʎʎɛ || tæʎʎɛsɛ || pæsɛ || pæsɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɛʎtat || pɛʎtant || tæʎʎæt || tæʎʎænt || pæsɛt || pæsint || auzɛt || auzæɨnt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɛʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʎɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɛʎtaħa || pɛʎtaβamɨ || tæʎʎɛħa || tæʎʎɛβamɨ || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβamɨ || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβamɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɛʎtaħa || pɛʎtaβasɛ || tæʎʎɛħa || tæʎʎɛβasɛ || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβasɛ || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɛʎtaħat || pɛʎtaħant || tæʎʎɛħat || tæʎʎɛħant || pæsɛħat || pæsɛħant || auzæɛħat || auzæɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɛʎtaβɛssɛ
!colspan="2"| teʎʎɨɛsse
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛssɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛssɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɛʎtaçi || pɛʎtaçɛmɨ || tæʎʎɨi || tæʎʎɨimɨ || pæsiçi || pæsiçimɨ || auziçi || auziçɛmɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɛʎtaβɛsti || pɛʎtaβɛstɛ || tæʎʎɨɛsti || tæʎʎɨɛstɛ || pæsiβɛsti || pæsiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɛʎtaut || pɛʎtaβɛʎont || tæʎʎɨɛt || tæʎʎɨɛʎont || pæsiçɛt || pæsiβɛʎont || auziçɛt || auziβɛʎont
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-15T15:58:29Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 10 */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]'s turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)
* VV > VɾV
* u > ʏ

===Stage 10===
* ɨ > ə
* ɤ > ʌ

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pɨæʎa ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎæ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎaʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kampɨ ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampɨlɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎæk, ʎævɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎæk || ʎævɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɨ

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maro ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| marɨ || mari
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| mari || manɨ
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎɛ || ʎɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎæi || ʎɛʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nɨ'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βɨ'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nɨ || ti || βɨ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mæi || nɛsʈɨ || tɨi || βesʈɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nɨçi || tɛçɛ || βɨçi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nɨ || tɛ || βɨ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, ɨi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛçɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pæ'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pæd'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pæ || pæd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || kiʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || kɨæ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pæd
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, æk, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ek || i || æk || æ || ɛk || æk || ɛʎɛ || ɛʎi || ɛʎa || eʎæ || ɛʎɨd || ɛʎa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨʎɨ || ɨlɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɒʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎaʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ɨnk || ɨ || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || æk || eʎɨ || eʎɨ || eʎa || ɒʎa || ɒʎɨd || eʎa
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pæ, pɨd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pæ || pæ || pɨd || pæ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ || kiʎɨ || paʎɨ || kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɨ || pan || pa || pod || pæ
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɛʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʎɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɛʎtɨ || pɛʎtamɨ || tæʎʎæɨ || tæʎʎɛmɨ || pæsɨ || pæsimɨ || auzæɨ || auzimɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɛʎta || pɛʎtasɛ || tæʎʎɛ || tæʎʎɛsɛ || pæsɛ || pæsɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɛʎtat || pɛʎtant || tæʎʎæt || tæʎʎænt || pæsɛt || pæsint || auzɛt || auzæɨnt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɛʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʎɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɛʎtaħa || pɛʎtaβamɨ || tæʎʎɛħa || tæʎʎɛβamɨ || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβamɨ || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβamɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɛʎtaħa || pɛʎtaβasɛ || tæʎʎɛħa || tæʎʎɛβasɛ || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβasɛ || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɛʎtaħat || pɛʎtaħant || tæʎʎɛħat || tæʎʎɛħant || pæsɛħat || pæsɛħant || auzæɛħat || auzæɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɛʎtaβɛssɛ
!colspan="2"| teʎʎɨɛsse
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛssɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛssɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɛʎtaçi || pɛʎtaçɛmɨ || tæʎʎɨi || tæʎʎɨimɨ || pæsiçi || pæsiçimɨ || auziçi || auziçɛmɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɛʎtaβɛsti || pɛʎtaβɛstɛ || tæʎʎɨɛsti || tæʎʎɨɛstɛ || pæsiβɛsti || pæsiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɛʎtaut || pɛʎtaβɛʎont || tæʎʎɨɛt || tæʎʎɨɛʎont || pæsiçɛt || pæsiβɛʎont || auziçɛt || auziβɛʎont
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-15T03:16:54Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Proposals */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is Peter Bleackley's turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)
:I'm not quite done yet, but I suggest that ħ spread among all imperfect endings and ç spread among all perfect endings by analogy. What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 03:16, 15 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pɨæʎa ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎæ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎaʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kampɨ ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| kampi || kampɨlɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎæk, ʎævɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎæk || ʎævɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɨ

|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maro ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| marɨ || mari
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| mari || manɨ
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎɛ || ʎɛ
|-
! '''Indirect'''
| ʎæi || ʎɛʎɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nɨ'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βɨ'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nɨ || ti || βɨ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mæi || nɛsʈɨ || tɨi || βesʈɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nɨçi || tɛçɛ || βɨçi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nɨ || tɛ || βɨ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, ɨi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛçɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pæ'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pæd'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pæ || pæd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || kiʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || kɨæ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pæd
|-
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, æk, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ek || i || æk || æ || ɛk || æk || ɛʎɛ || ɛʎi || ɛʎa || eʎæ || ɛʎɨd || ɛʎa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨʎɨ || ɨlɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɒʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎaʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ɨnk || ɨ || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || æk || eʎɨ || eʎɨ || eʎa || ɒʎa || ɒʎɨd || eʎa
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pæ, pɨd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pæ || pæ || pɨd || pæ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ || kiʎɨ || paʎɨ || kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɨ || pan || pa || pod || pæ
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɛʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʎɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɛʎtɨ || pɛʎtamɨ || tæʎʎæɨ || tæʎʎɛmɨ || pæsɨ || pæsimɨ || auzæɨ || auzimɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɛʎta || pɛʎtasɛ || tæʎʎɛ || tæʎʎɛsɛ || pæsɛ || pæsɛsɛ || auzi || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɛʎtat || pɛʎtant || tæʎʎæt || tæʎʎænt || pæsɛt || pæsint || auzɛt || auzæɨnt
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, imperfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɛʎtaʎɛ
!colspan="2"| tæʎʎɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛʎɛ
!colspan="2"| auziʎɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɛʎtaħa || pɛʎtaβamɨ || tæʎʎɛħa || tæʎʎɛβamɨ || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβamɨ || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβamɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɛʎtaħa || pɛʎtaβasɛ || tæʎʎɛħa || tæʎʎɛβasɛ || pæsɛħa || pæsɛβasɛ || auzæɛħa || auzæɛβasɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɛʎtaħat || pɛʎtaħant || tæʎʎɛħat || tæʎʎɛħant || pæsɛħat || pæsɛħant || auzæɛħat || auzæɛβant
|}
{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, perfect tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| pɛʎtaβɛssɛ
!colspan="2"| teʎʎɨɛsse
!colspan="2"| pɛtɛβɛssɛ
!colspan="2"| auzɛβɛssɛ
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɛʎtaçi || pɛʎtaçɛmɨ || tæʎʎɨi || tæʎʎɨimɨ || pæsiçi || pæsiçimɨ || auziçi || auziçɛmɨ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɛʎtaβɛsti || pɛʎtaβɛstɛ || tæʎʎɨɛsti || tæʎʎɨɛstɛ || pæsiβɛsti || pæsiβɛstɛ || auziβɛsti || auziβɛstɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɛʎtaut || pɛʎtaβɛʎont || tæʎʎɨɛt || tæʎʎɨɛʎont || pæsiçɛt || pæsiβɛʎont || auziçɛt || auziβɛʎont
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-15T03:04:20Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Conjugation */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-14T22:53:22Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Declension */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-14T22:52:25Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Declension */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-14T22:47:57Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Proposals */

The '''Round Robin Romlang''' is a collaborative conlang founded by [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]], inspired by the [[Round Robin Conlang]]. In the Round Robin Romlang, participants take turns adding sound changes to be applied to Latin.

==More Specific Rules==

Each participant takes turns adding a sound change, in the order of the Current Participants list below. No turns may be taken unless there are at least four current participants.

==Participants==

===Current Participants===
* [[User:DCliche|Kenner Gordon]]
* [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Shair Ahmed]]
* Kelvin Jackson
* [[User:PeteBleackley|Peter Bleackley]]
* [[User:Calculator Ftvb|Calculator Ftvb]]

It is Peter Bleackley's turn.

===Possible Participants===
These people have displayed interest, but ambiguously; they may or may not actually wish to join.
* Karen Badham
* Benct Philip Jonsson

===Former Participants===

—

==Sound Changes==
Each of the "stages" below represents a full round, except the first, which is a group of sound changes from Classical Latin to approximate [[Vulgar Latin]].

===Stage 1===
* a: > a
* e > ɛ
* e: > e
* i > e
* i: > i
* o > ɔ
* o: > o
* u > o
* u: > u
* y > i
* y: > i
* ai > ɛ
* oi > e
* n > Ø / _(f,v,s)
* h > Ø
* w > β
* b > β / V_(V,r)
* m > Ø / _#
* m > n / in certain monosyllabic words
* (e,i) > j / _V
* u > w / _V
* VV > V
* V > ˈV / ˈ(i,e)_
* V > ˈV / _C*ˈuV

===Stage 2===
* [fricative] > Ø / V_V
* n > r / V_V
* g > ɣ / V_(V, r)
* s(p,t,k) > (b,d,g)

===Stage 3===
* (k,g) > (ʧ,ʤ) / _(front vowel)
* s > h / #_V
* u > ʉ
* a > æ / _[+anterior]
* e > ɞ

===Stage 4===
* i > ʉ
* ɛ > æ
* [single stop] > [fricative] / (V, r, l)_V
* β > h / _(unstressed vowel)
* l > λ

===Stage 5===
* j > λ
* (kw, gw) > (p, b)
* o > u
* (ˈʉ,ˈɞ) > (ˈy,ˈœ)
* u > ɯ

===Stage 6===
* a > ɑ / #_
* ɣ > v
* ɔ > ɤ
* (ʉ,ɞ,a) >∅ / _[+sonorant]
* λ > ʎ̥˔

===Stage 7===
* s > Ø / _#
* [alveolar]r > [retroflex]
* [geminate consonant] > [single consonant]
* (y,œ) > (i,ɛ) / [-labial]_[-labial]
* r > ʟ

===Stage 8===
* ʟ > l
* h > ħ / _a
* h > ç / _[front vowel]
* (ʉ,ɞ) > (u, ɔ)
* ɑ > ɒ

===Stage 9===
* l > λ > ʎ̥˔
* h > Ø
* (ɯ, ɤ) > (ɨ, ɜ)

==Proposals==
Perhaps we could allow people to do grammatical changes (i.e. "Syntax changes to V2", "Nominative becomes ergative and accusative becomes absolutive", etc.) instead of sound changes if they wish. [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)
:I've taken the liberty of posting conjugation and declension tables so that we may see what peoposed grammatical changes may be based on. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 17:10, 10 March 2010 (UTC)
::Based on what the sounds changes have produced, I think these changes, at the very least, have happened:
*Elimination of ablative case in both nouns and pronouns
*Elimination of accusative case in nouns, but keeping it in pronouns
*Merging dative case with genitive in nouns
*Merging ɛ, æa, ɛd with ɛk, æk, ɤk
*Elimination of vocative case in nouns and pronouns
What think ye? [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 19:36, 11 March 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good; what would the new dato-genitive case be called, though? [[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 20:12, 13 March 2010 (UTC)

The dato-genitive case would probably be called "indirect."

What about the verbs?

I'm working on those right now, actually. Once I'm done I'll put up a list of proposals. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 22:47, 14 March 2010 (UTC)

==Declension==
{| class="wikitable" | width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''pɨæʎa ''girl'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎæ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎaʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| pɨæʎæ || pɨæʎi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎa
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎy
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| pɨæʎa || pɨæʎæ
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
!colspan="2"| '''kampɨ ''field'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular''' || '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kampi || kampɨlɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| kampɨ || kampɨ
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| kampɨ || kampi
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| kampæ || kampi
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎæk, ʎævɛ ''king'' m.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎæk || ʎævɛ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ʎævi || ʎævɛɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ʎævɛ || ʎævɛ
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| ʎævæ || ʎævɛɨ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| læk || lævɛ
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''maro ''hand'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| marɨ || mari
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mari || manɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| marɨi || marɛɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| marɨ || mari
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| mari || marɛɨ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| manɨ || mani
|}

{| class="wikitable" width="360px"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2"| '''ʎɛ ''thing'' f.'''
|-
! '''Singular'''
! '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ʎɛ || ʎɛ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ʎæi || ʎɛʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ʎæi || ʎɛɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ʎɛn || ʎɛ
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| ʎɛ || ʎɛɨ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| ʎɛ || ʎɛ
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="2" | '''First Person'''
! colspan="2" | '''Second Person'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''''ɛvɛ'' I m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''nɨ'' we m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''ty'' thou m. and f.'''
! colspan="1" | '''''βɨ'' ye m. and f.'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛvɛ || nɨ || ti || βɨ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| mæi || nɛsʈɨ || tɨi || βesʈɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| mi || nɨçi || tɛçɛ || βɨçi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| mɛ || nɨ || tɛ || βɨ
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| mɛ || nɨçi || tɛ || βɨçi
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| —— || —— || ti || βɨ
|-
|}

{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="2" | '''''ɛ'' he, they m.
! colspan="2" | '''''æa'' she, they f.
! colspan="2" | '''''ɛd'' it, they n.
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ɛ || ɛi || æa || ææ || ɛd || æa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| æʎɨ || æɨʎɨ || æʎɨ || æaʎɨ || æʎɨ || æɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| æi || æi || æi || æi || æi || æi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| æɨ || æɨ || æa || æa || ɛd || æa
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || - || - || - || - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| æɨ || æi || æa || æi || æɨ || æi
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! || '''''—, ɨi''''' himself, herself itself, oneself, themselves
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| —
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨi
|-
! '''Dative'''
| çɛçɛ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| çɛ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| çɛ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="2" |
! colspan="1" | '''''pæ'' who? m. and f.
! colspan="1" | '''''pæd'' what? n. only
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Singular'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pæ || pæd
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || kiʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || kɨæ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pæd
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| pɨ || pɨ
|-
|}
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛk, æk, ɛk'' this, this one
! colspan="6" | '''''ɛʎɛ, ɛʎa, ɛʎɨd'' that, that one
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| ek || i || æk || æ || ɛk || æk || ɛʎɛ || ɛʎi || ɛʎa || eʎæ || ɛʎɨd || ɛʎa
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| ɨʎɨ || ɨlɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɒʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎaʎɨ || ɛʎiɨ || eʎɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɨɛk || i || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi || ɛʎi
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| ɨnk || ɨ || ɒnk || ɒ || ɛk || æk || eʎɨ || eʎɨ || eʎa || ɒʎa || ɒʎɨd || eʎa
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| ɨk || i || ɒk || i || ɨk || i || eʎɨ || ɛʎi || eʎa || ɛʎi || eʎɨ || ɛʎi
|-
|}
=== Relative pronouns ===
{| class="wikitable"
! rowspan="3" |
! colspan="6" | '''''pi, pæ, pɨd'' who, which, that
|-
! colspan="2" | '''Masculine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Feminine'''
! colspan="2" | '''Neuter'''
|-
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
! colspan="1" | '''Singular'''
! colspan="1" | '''Plural'''
|-
! '''Nominative'''
| pi || pi || pæ || pæ || pɨd || pæ
|-
! '''Genitive'''
| kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ || kiʎɨ || paʎɨ || kiʎɨ || pɨʎɨ
|-
! '''Dative'''
| kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ || kɨæ || piɨ
|-
! '''Accusative'''
| pɛn || pɨ || pan || pa || pod || pæ
|-
! '''Vocative'''
| - || - || - || - || - || -
|-
! '''Ablative'''
| pɨ || piɨ || pa || piɨ || pɨ || piɨ
|-
|}

==Conjugation==

{| class="wikitable"
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!rowspan="3"|
!colspan="8"| Indicative mood, active voice, present tense
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
!colspan="2"| portāre
!colspan="2"| terrēre
!colspan="2"| petere
!colspan="2"| audīre
|-
|-bgcolor="#EFEFEF"
! Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural || Singular || Plural
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | First Person
| pɤrtɯ || pɤrtamɯ || tærræɯ || tærrɛmɯ || pæsɯ || pæsimɯ || auzæɯ || auzimɯ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Second Person
| pɤrta || ppɤrtasɛ || tærrɛ || tærrɛsɛ || pæsɛ || pæsœsœ || auzy || auzisɛ
|-
!bgcolor="#EFEFEF" | Third Person
| pɤrtat || pɤrtant || tærræt || tærrænt || pæsɛt || pæsint || auzɛt || auzæɯnt
|}

[[Category:Collaborations]]

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-13T05:50:50Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Proposals */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-13T05:48:35Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Declension */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-12T20:39:43Z

Kicgan Vekei:

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-11T19:37:44Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Conjugation */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-11T19:36:36Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Proposals */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-11T19:35:51Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Declension */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-11T19:33:16Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Declension */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-11T19:32:49Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Declension */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-11T16:02:01Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Current Participants */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-11T15:57:57Z

Kicgan Vekei:

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-10T17:56:14Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Declension */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-10T17:10:54Z

Kicgan Vekei:

Talk:Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-10T16:12:26Z

Kicgan Vekei:

I'd like to be able to see the effect all these sound changes are having. Can anyone provide a sample text to see what happens?
--[[User:PeteBleackley|PeteBleackley]] 19:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:As of the end of Stage 7:
::Classical Latin:
:::Arma virumque canō, Trōiae quī prīmus ab ōrīs Ītaliam fātō prōfugus Lāviniaque vēnit lītora, multum ille et terrīs iactātus et altō, vī superum, saevae memorem Iūnōnis ob īram. Multa quoque et bellō passus, dum conderet urbem īnferretque deōs Latiō, genus unde Latīnum Albānīque patrēs atque altae moenia Rōmae.
::Stage 7:
:::/ɑrma hirɯpæ kanɯ Trɯʎæ py prmɯs ɑβ ɯry ysaʎæa fasɯ prɯfɯvɯ ʎaβnʎapæ βœrœt ʎytɤra, mɯʎsɯ œʎʎæ æt tærrʉs ʎaktasɯ æt ɑʎtɯ, βy hɯfærɯ, hæhæ mæmɤrœ ʎrɯri ɯβ yra. mɯʎsa pɤpæ æt βæʎʎɯ passɯs, dɯ cɤndæræt ɯrhæ yfærrætpæ dæɯs ʎaseɯ, dʒerɯ ɯndæ ʎasirɯ ɑlβaripæ paʈɞ ɑtpæ ɑʎtæ mœrya rɯmæ/

I think that's it. If there's anything I missed, do tell.

Also, this would be different in normal speech - many fricatives at the ends of words would disappear, and many plosives would lenite at word-boundaries. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 02:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

:Here's a phrase from [http://bricka.penguindeskjob.com/historical_bogo-linguistics.htm Geoff Eddy's guide to bogolanging] in the RRR, at the end of Stage 5:
:::Equum aquam dūcere potes, sed si facere ut super dorsum innat, causam bonam habes.
::Stage 4:
:::/æpɯ apa dyʧæræ pɔsæs hæd hœ fæʧæræ ɯt hɯɸær dɔrsɯ œræt kaʉa bɔra aæs/

[[User:DCliche|DCliche]] 23:56, 9 March 2010 (UTC)

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-10T16:00:40Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Current Participants */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-10T15:59:40Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 7 */

Talk:Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-09T23:33:38Z

Kicgan Vekei:

I'd like to be able to see the effect all these sound changes are having. Can anyone provide a sample text to see what happens?
--[[User:PeteBleackley|PeteBleackley]] 19:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:As of the end of Stage 4:
::Classical Latin:
:::Arma virumque canō, Trōiae quī prīmus ab ōrīs Ītaliam fātō prōfugus Lāviniaque vēnit lītora, multum ille et terrīs iactātus et altō, vī superum, saevae memorem Iūnōnis ob īram. Multa quoque et bellō passus, dum conderet urbem īnferretque deōs Latiō, genus unde Latīnum Albānīque patrēs atque altae moenia Rōmae.
::Stage 4:
:::/ɑrma hirɯpæ kanɯ Trojæ pʉ prymɯs ɑβ ɯrys ysaʎæa fasɯ prɯfɯvɯs ʎaβynʎapæ βœrœt ʎytɔra, mɯʎsɯ œʎʎæ æt tærrʉs ʎaktasɯs æt ɑʎtɯ, βy hɯfærɯ, hæhæ mæmɔrɞ ʎyrɯris ɯβ yra. mɯʎsa pɔpæ æt βæʎʎɯ passɯs, dɯ cɔndæræt ɯrhæ yfærrætpæ dæɯs ʎaseɯ, dʒerɯs ɯndæ ʎasirɯ ɑlβaripæ patrɞs ɑtpæ ɑʎtæ mœrya rɯmæ/

I think that's it. If there's anything I missed, do tell.

Also, this would be different in normal speech - many fricatives at the ends of words would disappear, and many plosives would lenite at word-boundaries. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 02:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-09T23:31:45Z

Kicgan Vekei:

Talk:Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-09T17:57:11Z

Kicgan Vekei:

I'd like to be able to see the effect all these sound changes are having. Can anyone provide a sample text to see what happens?
--[[User:PeteBleackley|PeteBleackley]] 19:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:As of the end of Stage 4:
::Classical Latin:
:::Arma virumque canō, Trōiae quī prīmus ab ōrīs Ītaliam fātō prōfugus Lāviniaque vēnit lītora, multum ille et terrīs iactātus et altō, vī superum, saevae memorem Iūnōnis ob īram. Multa quoque et bellō passus, dum conderet urbem īnferretque deōs Latiō, genus unde Latīnum Albānīque patrēs atque altae moenia Rōmae.
::Stage 4:
:::/arma hirɯpæ kanɯ Trojæ pʉ prymɯs aβ ɯrys ysaʎæa fasɯ prɯfɯɣɯs ʎaβynʎapæ βœrœt ʎytɔra, mɯʎsɯ œʎʎæ æt tærrʉs ʎaktasɯs æt aʎtɯ, βy hɯfærɯ, hæhæ mæmɔrɞ ʎyrɯris ɯβ yra. mɯʎsa pɔpæ æt βæʎʎɯ passɯs, dɯ cɔndæræt ɯrhæ yfærrætpæ dæɯs ʎaseɯ, dʒerɯs ɯndæ ʎasirɯ alβaripæ patrɞs atpæ aʎtæ mœrya rɯmæ/

I think that's it. If there's anything I missed, do tell.

Also, this would be different in normal speech - many fricatives at the ends of words would disappear, and many plosives would lenite at word-boundaries. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 02:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-09T17:55:50Z

Kicgan Vekei:

I'd like to be able to see the effect all these sound changes are having. Can anyone provide a sample text to see what happens?
--[[User:PeteBleackley|PeteBleackley]] 19:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:As of the end of Stage 4:
::Classical Latin:
:::Arma virumque canō, Trōiae quī prīmus ab ōrīs Ītaliam fātō prōfugus Lāviniaque vēnit lītora, multum ille et terrīs iactātus et altō, vī superum, saevae memorem Iūnōnis ob īram. Multa quoque et bellō passus, dum conderet urbem īnferretque deōs Latiō, genus unde Latīnum Albānīque patrēs atque altae moenia Rōmae.
::Stage 4:
:::/arma virɯpæ kanɯ Trojæ pʉ prymɯs aβ ɯrys ysaʎæa fasɯ prɯfɯɣɯs ʎaβynʎapæ βœrœt ʎytɔra, mɯʎsɯ œʎʎæ æt tærrʉs ʎaktasɯs æt aʎtɯ, βy hɯfærɯ, hæhæ mæmɔrɞ ʎyrɯris ɯβ yra. mɯʎsa pɔpæ æt bæʎʎɯ passɯs, dɯ cɔndæræt ɯrhæ yfærrætpæ dæɯs ʎaseɯ, dʒerɯs ɯndæ ʎasirɯ alβaripæ patrɞs atpæ aʎtæ mœrya rɯmæ/

I think that's it. If there's anything I missed, do tell.

Also, this would be different in normal speech - many fricatives at the ends of words would disappear, and many plosives would lenite at word-boundaries. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 02:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-09T15:11:11Z

Kicgan Vekei:

I'd like to be able to see the effect all these sound changes are having. Can anyone provide a sample text to see what happens?
--[[User:PeteBleackley|PeteBleackley]] 19:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:As of the end of Stage 4:
::Classical Latin:
:::Arma virumque canō, Trōiae quī prīmus ab ōrīs Ītaliam fātō prōfugus Lāviniaque vēnit lītora, multum ille et terrīs iactātus et altō, vī superum, saevae memorem Iūnōnis ob īram. Multa quoque et bellō passus, dum conderet urbem īnferretque deōs Latiō, genus unde Latīnum Albānīque patrēs atque altae moenia Rōmae.
::Stage 4:
:::/arma viropæ kano Trojæ pʉ prʉmos aβ orʉs ʉsaʎæa faso profoɣos ʎaβʉnʎapæ βɞrɞt ʎʉtɔra, moʎso ɞʎʎæ æt tærrʉs ʎaktasos æt aʎto, βʉ hofæro, hæhæ mæmɔrɞ ʎʉroris oβ ʉra. moʎsa pɔpæ æt bæʎʎo passos, du cɔndæræt urhæ ʉfærrætpæ dæos ʎaseo, dʒeros ondæ ʎasiro alβaripæ patrɞs atpæ aʎtɞ aʎtæ mɞrʉa romæ/

I think that's it. If there's anything I missed, do tell.

Also, this would be different in normal speech - many fricatives at the ends of words would disappear, and many plosives would lenite at word-boundaries. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 02:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-09T15:09:04Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Current Participants */

Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-09T15:08:31Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Stage 5 */

Talk:Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-07T15:32:37Z

Kicgan Vekei:

I'd like to be able to see the effect all these sound changes are having. Can anyone provide a sample text to see what happens?
--[[User:PeteBleackley|PeteBleackley]] 19:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:As of the end of Stage 4:
::Classical Latin:
:::Arma virumque canō, Trōiae quī prīmus ab ōrīs Ītaliam fātō prōfugus Lāviniaque vēnit lītora, multum ille et terrīs iactātus et altō, vī superum, saevae memorem Iūnōnis ob īram. Multa quoque et bellō passus, dum conderet urbem īnferretque deōs Latiō, genus unde Latīnum Albānīque patrēs atque altae moenia Rōmae.
::Stage 4:
:::/arma virokwæ kano Trojæ kwʉ prʉmos aβ orʉs ʉsaʎæa faso profoɣos ʎaβʉnjakwæ βɞrɞt ʎʉtɔra, moʎso ɞʎʎæ æt tærrʉs jaktasos æt aʎto, βʉ hofæro, hæhæ mæmɔrɞ jʉroris oβ ʉra. moʎsa kwɔkwæ æt bæʎʎo passos, du cɔndæræt urhæ ʉfærrætkwæ dæos ʎaseo, dʒeros ondæ ʎasiro alβarikwæ patrɞs atkwæ aʎtɞ aʎtæ mɞrʉa romæ/

I think that's it. If there's anything I missed, do tell.

Also, this would be different in normal speech - many fricatives at the ends of words would disappear, and many plosives would lenite at word-boundaries. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 02:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Talk:Round Robin Romlang

2010-03-07T02:02:35Z

Kicgan Vekei:

I'd like to be able to see the effect all these sound changes are having. Can anyone provide a sample text to see what happens?
--[[User:PeteBleackley|PeteBleackley]] 19:27, 6 March 2010 (UTC)

:As of the end of Stage 4:
::Classical Latin:
:::Arma virumque canō, Trōiae quī prīmus ab ōrīs Ītaliam fātō prōfugus Lāviniaque vēnit lītora, multum ille et terrīs iactātus et altō, vī superum, saevae memorem Iūnōnis ob īram. Multa quoque et bellō passus, dum conderet urbem īnferretque deōs Latiō, genus unde Latīnum Albānīque patrēs atque altae moenia Rōmae.
::Stage 4:
:::/arma virokwæ kano Trojæ kwʉ prʉmos aβ orʉs ʉsaʎæa faso profoɣos ʎaβʉnjakwæ βɞrɞt ʎʉtɔra, moʎso ɞʎʎæ æt tærrʉs jaktasos æt aʎto, βʉ hufæro, hæhæ mæmɔrɞ jʉroris oβ ʉra. moʎsa kwɔkwæ æt bæʎʎo passos, du cɔndæræt urhæ ʉfærrætkwæ dæos ʎateo, dʒeros ondæ ʎatiro alβarikwæ patrɞs atkwæ aʎtɞ aʎtæ mɞrʉa romæ/

I think that's it. If there's anything I missed, do tell.

Also, this would be different in normal speech - many fricatives at the ends of words would disappear, and many plosives would lenite at word-boundaries. [[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]] 02:02, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Bɨɨše

2010-03-05T22:16:51Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Consonants */

{|border=1 align=right cellpadding=4 cellspacing=0 width=300 class=bordertable style="margin: 0 0 1em 1em; background: #f9f9f9; border: 1px #aaaaaa solid; border-collapse: collapse; font-size: 95%;"
|colspan="2" bgcolor="#CCFF00" align="center" |'''Lorošae'''
|-
|valign="top"|Pronounced:
|| /'loroSai/
|-
|valign="top"|Spoken in:
|| The eastern half of Merista and most of Iliant
|-
|valign="top"|Timeline/Universe:
|| Unnamed
|-
|valign="top"|Total speakers:
||I can't count them all!
|-
|valign="top"|Genealogical classification:
||[[Proto-Lorošae-Hansit-Kentaval]]
:Eastern
::Zuonvokeilaha
:::Esiarkeilaha
::::Essuonullā
:::::Izimban
::::::Izỳbà
:::::::Lorošae-Mèsóc
::::::::'''Lorošae'''
|-
|colspan="2" bgcolor="#CCFF00" align="center" |'''Created by:'''
|-
||[[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]]||2008-
|}

==Phonology==
===Consonants===
:p /p/, b /b/, t /t/, d /d/, ʈ /ʈ/, ɖ /ɖ/, k /k/, g /g/, q /q/
:f /f/, v /v/, s /s/, z /z/, š /ʃ/, ž /ʒ/, x /X/, ğ /R/

===Vowels===
===Diphthongs===
===Phonotactics===
===Syllable structure===
===Stress===

[[Category:Conlangs by Kicgan Vekei]]

Bɨɨše

2010-03-05T21:51:17Z

Kicgan Vekei: /* Consonants */

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|colspan="2" bgcolor="#CCFF00" align="center" |'''Lorošae'''
|-
|valign="top"|Pronounced:
|| /'loroSai/
|-
|valign="top"|Spoken in:
|| The eastern half of Merista and most of Iliant
|-
|valign="top"|Timeline/Universe:
|| Unnamed
|-
|valign="top"|Total speakers:
||I can't count them all!
|-
|valign="top"|Genealogical classification:
||[[Proto-Lorošae-Hansit-Kentaval]]
:Eastern
::Zuonvokeilaha
:::Esiarkeilaha
::::Essuonullā
:::::Izimban
::::::Izỳbà
:::::::Lorošae-Mèsóc
::::::::'''Lorošae'''
|-
|colspan="2" bgcolor="#CCFF00" align="center" |'''Created by:'''
|-
||[[User:Kicgan Vekei|Kicgan Vekei]]||2008-
|}

==Phonology==
===Consonants===
:p /p/, b /b/, t /t/, d /d/, k /k/, g /g/, q /q/, ġ /G\/
:f /f/, v /v/, s /s/, z /z/, s /š/, z /ž/, x /X/, ğ /R/

===Vowels===
===Diphthongs===
===Phonotactics===
===Syllable structure===
===Stress===

[[Category:Conlangs by Kicgan Vekei]]