Talk:Conlang learners/Learners shortlist
Why Lojban, Esperanto and others aren't on the list
It is my personal opinion that the primary goal of this page is the promotion of candidate conlangs, these languages that are so well known in the community need no fanfare, but if someone thinks that they really should be added, I suppose that there would be no wild objection
- The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ave matthew.
- That's also why I'm not planning to rank Láadan very high on my ballot. It's a cool language, apparently fairly complete and learnable, but to my mind the goal of this project is to jump-start a language that doesn't have a speaker community yet, and give the learners encouragement by all learning the language together. Láadan already has a community around it, though smaller than Lojban's or Toki Pona's, and if anyone wants to start learning it at any time there are a number of people out there who can and will help. A lone person deciding to learn, say, Teonaht or Vabungula though, wouldn't have that advantage. --Jim Henry 15:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
Conlangs I consider to be too incompletely documented or in flux to use for this project just now
These are conlangs of which I like what I've seen so far, but which seem to me to be too incompletely documented to be learnable at this time. --Jim Henry 15:28, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
- Laefèvæsili - online documentation is too terse and incomplete.
- Itlani - no online documentation at present, just texts with no gloss.
- Tokana - online documentation is reasonably complete, but very out of date; Matt Pearson says the language is in flux now and the documentation of the current version is inconsistent and incomplete. Maybe we'll learn Tokana in a year or two when he finishes the revison of the grammar etc.
I removed Talarian from the list due to lack of modernity -- the secondary world it exists in is not only different physically but also historically. I think that a language for this project should not only be learnable, but also usable by people in the primary world. Elemtilas 18:14, 13 July 2009 (UTC)
While I think that Fith would be an awesome and mind-expanding conlang. Much of the documentation is 404-complete and its creator unavailable. Sel messitihildi 13:31, 16 July 2009 (UTC)
My email reply to User:Elemtilas back in 2009 has somehow never registered, it seems. Personally, I am critical of people learning conlangs because they're very often inherently unstable. Also, regarding Ayeri, while it has mostly been stable for a while and I do have a fair share of documentation on it in the form of glossed translations and a bunch of blog articles discussing this or that feature, the written grammar itself is way incomplete and won't be completed in the forseeable future. So if you choose to study it nonetheless, be aware that you will have to dig deep. --- Dampantingaya (talk) 01:43, 7 April 2015 (PDT)